So have we just given up even pretending to care about the virus now

I think we have. Figures are 10 times higher than a few months ago yet we are scaling back on attempts to help control things. I think the government have just though to
hel l with it. Let's just get on as we would if there was no pandemic.
 
Without early intervention (and maybe even with) I just can't see how the NHS won't be overwhelmed over winter. It was always barely able to cope pre-covid, it won't take much to push it over the edge.

It's a ticking bomb and as ever this government wants to stick its head in the sand. Unlike brexit, there's no long grass to kick this one into though. The proverbial is going to hit the fan unless the government follow the scientific advice. I just can't see how it's not, I'm fairly sure they'll cave, they have to.

The ideological underfunding and running down of the NHS is going to be as much to blame as covid. Nothing a bit of applause won't fix though I'm sure.
 
The mistake, one of stupidly many, was "freedom day". After that, all bets were off and now we face a winter of much more than discontent. My job feels like swimming in treacle. Its not fūćking sweet
 
I've had a pretty much covid free news week and you know what? It's been bloody brilliant for my mental health.

At a wedding this weekend just outside of York, been brilliant catching up with friends and family we haven't seen in the flesh for over a year.

Also been told some insider knowledge, if you've got shares in TUI or a holiday or flight booked through them cancel it or rearrange with another holiday/flight provider immediately. It's looking increasingly likely they won't survive the next 12 months. Even after they've been propped up by the German government. 👀
 
If I’m brutally honest I’m pig sick of it . Ive had my jabs and played the game by the book , but am now of the opinion if I get it I get it ! I know it’s our duty to Protect those who are very vulnerable but there’s in my mind a limit as to what we can do .
I know this sounds like a US Senator on a podium but I’d rather die on my feet than live on my knees .
 
Been to butlins for a week, not one mask in sight apart from the staff. Lots of people who fall in the vulnerable category. Hope they were all double jabbed, otherwise it wouldn’t take much to put them in hospital would be my guess
 
Without early intervention (and maybe even with) I just can't see how the NHS won't be overwhelmed over winter. It was always barely able to cope pre-covid, it won't take much to push it over the edge.

It's a ticking bomb and as ever this government wants to stick its head in the sand. Unlike brexit, there's no long grass to kick this one into though. The proverbial is going to hit the fan unless the government follow the scientific advice. I just can't see how it's not, I'm fairly sure they'll cave, they have to.

The ideological underfunding and running down of the NHS is going to be as much to blame as covid. Nothing a bit of applause won't fix though I'm sure.
Think the early intervention has long gone by this stage. They made such a push for freedom day when in reality keeping less disruptive measures like masks and working from home and possibly at a push isolation rules for contacts of a confirmed case, would have more than likely kept cases low enough to manage.
It just feels inevitable that we will go from nothing into a lockdown when hospitalisation levels get too high, which like last year could have been avoided.
 
I can't believe how relaxed things have become. I went to Tesco yesterday and there was only one sanitiser station at the entrance to clean your trolley down - plenty of hand sanitisers inside the shop but people were just walking in without santising their hands or trolley. You could count on one hand the number of people wearing masks and social distancing seemed to have ceased.

I was offered a free ticket for the match today and turned it down, I am still not comfortable in large crowds. If they had have brought in the Covid passports or produce a negative test before entering, I would have taken up the offer. I did attend the England game at the Riverside but there was social distancing in place and you had to produce a negative test - no hardship. You just don't know who you are sitting next to.

I have seen the Covid passports work over the summer in France. It takes minutes to download them from the NHS app and having them checked was easy. Each member of staff had an app on their phone which scanned your QR code on your CP. People who didn't have a mobile phone produced a paper copy. I witnessed people being turned away from restaurants, cafes and bars for not producing them. There was no hassle from them, people realised if you didn't have the CP, you didn't get in.

Too many in this country thought it was against their civil liberties but that is a debate on another thread.

The government has badly handled the pandemic from the start and is continuing to do so. We will see the death toll rise and they will stumble to plan B, plan C and into another lockdown. When giving clear direction regarding the wearing of masks in public places and adhering to social distancing would have helped.
 
I can't believe how relaxed things have become. I went to Tesco yesterday and there was only one sanitiser station at the entrance to clean your trolley down - plenty of hand sanitisers inside the shop but people were just walking in without santising their hands or trolley. You could count on one hand the number of people wearing masks and social distancing seemed to have ceased.

I was offered a free ticket for the match today and turned it down, I am still not comfortable in large crowds. If they had have brought in the Covid passports or produce a negative test before entering, I would have taken up the offer. I did attend the England game at the Riverside but there was social distancing in place and you had to produce a negative test - no hardship. You just don't know who you are sitting next to.

I have seen the Covid passports work over the summer in France. It takes minutes to download them from the NHS app and having them checked was easy. Each member of staff had an app on their phone which scanned your QR code on your CP. People who didn't have a mobile phone produced a paper copy. I witnessed people being turned away from restaurants, cafes and bars for not producing them. There was no hassle from them, people realised if you didn't have the CP, you didn't get in.

Too many in this country thought it was against their civil liberties but that is a debate on another thread.

The government has badly handled the pandemic from the start and is continuing to do so. We will see the death toll rise and they will stumble to plan B, plan C and into another lockdown. When giving clear direction regarding the wearing of masks in public places and adhering to social distancing would have helped.
The passports are pointless, I went to Silverstone over the summer which was classed as a test event, you needed to state you had a negative lateral flow (no proof required) or were double vaccinated (which doesn’t stop you passing on the virus)
The entire system was just open to being exploited and will never be able to work how it was intended.
You would hope people would have the sense to test before attending a large event, but I highly doubt many would.
 
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