Signs of recovery

Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret said:
Yes we're going down a pretty bleak path. I'm thinking of getting a job turning people over while they're hooked up to VR so they don't get bedsores. It'll get me out of the house at least.
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I wouldn’t call it a bleak path. Just different. Embrace it. Work from a coffee shop, get your perfect office set up at home. Keep in touch with everyone over teams or WhatsApp
 
Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret said:
Being on your own all day every day is incredibly bleak. It's great for some people. It's taken a massive toll on my mental health. People who have families just don't get it.
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I like it, I can concentrate miles better, end up much more productive, but the flexibility is by far the best thing. I don't even feel like I'm working to be honest, actually enjoy it rather than dread it. Mine was by choice though and been doing it about 5 years.

You could always team up with some other people you know (maybe from your office), so you have a bit of company?

I can actually see a market in hot desks, where people basically from any company can go to an office and work beside other people. Whether that's form not having space at home, wanting to get out, wanting a routine or wanting to be with others etc.

I suppose that's a bit like a cafe, but without having to pay £4 for a coffee. Although I suppose someone would be paying for the workspace!
 
Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret said:
Yes we're going down a pretty bleak path. I'm thinking of getting a job turning people over while they're hooked up to VR so they don't get bedsores. It'll get me out of the house at least.
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Starting to go the way of an episode of black mirror for this who work in offices etc with a computer as the primary tool.
 
Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret said:
Being on your own all day every day is incredibly bleak. It's great for some people. It's taken a massive toll on my mental health. People who have families just don't get it.
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I do get it, I’ve been there. Can you not spend more time with friends? That’s why I suggested meeting up in a coffee shop. You didn’t need to be workmates just pop and work together and chew the fat. I have a couple of mate local who wfh too and tend to pop and see them for a bit
 
We seem to be physically detaching ourselves from other humans more and more - after a few years I think it will have psychological implications for some - possibly detaching psychologically too. Overall I don't think its healthy long term. Hybrid working seems a more sensible option - where some working from home takes part but not all.

I do also have doubts about some of the reported efficiency - currently everyone says it more efficient but I feel some of my customer service experiences have been poorer under lock down which may not be apparent yet to those organisations. As less people comment during lockdown or make allowances and just leave things.
 
I guess it depends on the role and the person.

Certain roles - certainly in the technical field - lend themselves to remote working as even when in the office they seem to be in a cubicle and often locked off with headphones/headsets on and listening to music or in meetings. Programming team members or DevOps types are typical here - and it has bled over to network teams as software defined or virtualised kit has become the norm. I'll admit a sense of loss of racking, stacking and configuring data centre kit - but in the end we managed it remotely when it was all commissioned.

I can see the argument for the sales type organisations and obviously there are roles that simply cannot be undertaken remotely. But on the flip side we have to stop the population migrating to/from locations sometimes hundreds of miles away daily, using fossil fuels, creating pollution and wasting hours of potentially productive time in traffic.

This isn't to say that there cannot be a hybrid part-time site/home model for some, a fully remote model for others and a fully on-site model for those that need/want or must be on-site. This will no doubt develop over the coming year or so, and it will be interesting to see how it pans out.
 
Randy said:
The healthy start program has been around for years mate.
I believe from personal experience the household income needs to be under £16,000 a year to qualify.
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I am aware of that Randy.
Its a condemnation of our country that Healthy Start is still needed in the 6th Richest Economy in the world.
The fact that millions of our people dont even have an income of 16k a year is an indictment of those in a postion to make a difference.
 
Muttley said:
As ever there is a caveat, well down in the article...

So we are not yet back to March 2020 GDP.

Good news that we are seeing recovery but it isn't "growth" is it?
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And the 'recovery' is causing price rises which will then cause inflation and will then cause interest rates to increase and might then be very bad news for home owners.
 
Well this nice thread about something positive happening certainly derailed, cant we just accept, good news, although small is going in the ight direction & hopefully the start of more
 
r00fie1 said:
I am aware of that Randy.
Its a condemnation of our country that Healthy Start is still needed in the 6th Richest Economy in the world.
The fact that millions of our people dont even have an income of 16k a year is an indictment of those in a postion to make a difference.
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I see your point in that but I don't think it's just about the money side of it either. It's also about education.

When we had our first the local midwife was superb. She mentioned to is about the healthy start scheme as my wife has been laid off mid way through her maternity leave but fortunately I earned enough not to have use the scheme. But we religiously made a point of making sure our youngest had a bowl of fruit for breakfast every day along with her cereal or toast and now every morning she asks for her fruit as part of her breakfast. Our youngest has followed the same path and we'll be doing the same with our third.

In closing I believe fresh fruit and vegetable vouchers should be available for EVERY child of primary school age regardless of household income. If the government can implement furlough schemes and dish out PPE contracts to mates from the pub then there is absolutely no reason at all why this voucher scheme can't be brought in. Will go a long way to tackling obesity in this country aswell as promoting healthy lifestyles.
 
An individual banana and a bag of crisps are about the same price.
The 'cost' is something else.
 
Randy said:
I see your point in that but I don't think it's just about the money side of it either. It's also about education.

When we had our first the local midwife was superb. She mentioned to is about the healthy start scheme as my wife has been laid off mid way through her maternity leave but fortunately I earned enough not to have use the scheme. But we religiously made a point of making sure our youngest had a bowl of fruit for breakfast every day along with her cereal or toast and now every morning she asks for her fruit as part of her breakfast. Our youngest has followed the same path and we'll be doing the same with our third.

In closing I believe fresh fruit and vegetable vouchers should be available for EVERY child of primary school age regardless of household income. If the government can implement furlough schemes and dish out PPE contracts to mates from the pub then there is absolutely no reason at all why this voucher scheme can't be brought in. Will go a long way to tackling obesity in this country aswell as promoting healthy lifestyles.
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I concur with all your sentiments.
The other issue is the responsibility of the sugar industry and national processed food manufacturers - who profit from refined processed foods - which are cheap and readily available. Sugar content should be taxed at point of production. Pepsi and Coke would be a good starting point - make sugar filled foods expensive - put the pressure on the big profit makers.
 
Erimus74 said:
Well this nice thread about something positive happening certainly derailed, cant we just accept, good news, although small is going in the ight direction & hopefully the start of more
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It depends how you look at it, and how old you are/ your work/ life situation I suppose.

To me, and most people working, and who will have to for the foreseeable, they should not look at it like good news, if they want to be realistic, it's just news that is less bad. It's like me taking £100 from you, then giving you £70 back, but that £70 has largely come from a loan (in your name). Since I took that £100, you now need to get £110 to be the same value due to inflation/ cost increases. Bad news for the very young too, as the cost of their first home just got jacked up artifilically.

Going in the right direction isn't the right way to look at it either. We went off backwards, and went further back than our competition, and then paid a fortune (with money from a loan shark) for a taxi to get us back to the start line, and we've not got back there yet, as the start line keeps moving forward due to inflation, debt and other countries pulling that start line forward.

The only time we're going in the direction is when we've caught up the others, and paid off the debt it took to get there, which could be decades away.

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zzzzz said:
Do you write for Boris? ;)
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No not really, I just look at things with a positive outlook, that hopefully its the start of more to come, we certainly need it, times are hard for a lot of people & seeing any glimmer of good news is welcome, cant see the point is posting negative news after negative news for the sake of it then whe good news is published poo poo it followed by negative commets, maybe its just me though
 
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