Serious question. Recycling

I recently moved to Stockton and the recycling here is a joke. A grotty bag for cardboard, paper, tins etc and a box for glass. Gets picked up every 2 weeks so is overflowing after a few days.
 
All a bit moot when 50% of what goes out must end up blowing down the street some days.
Loads of other places have multiple bins with lids. Why do we have the crappy open top containers?!

That said doesn’t a load of it just end up going to the lowest bidder before being bulldozed over in a developing nation somewhere?
 
ThatFragranceGuy said:
Baths and showers (and stuff like hosepipes) use most people's water use. A cubic meter costs £1.23, that's 1,000L, average kitchen sink holds 15-20L so at 20L that's 50 sink fulls. Baths hold 100-250ish L but people don't have a full bath. Rinsing out some plastic you'd probably not notice it on a meter.
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It’s actually double as you pay £1.23 per 1000 litres too for sewage charge, still pretty cheap though 😜
 
Norman_Conquest said:
I don’t get that they want you to wash tins and bottles out before recycling, surely we are wasting another resource.

At the entrance of the E.Leclerc I use is a machine that crushes plastic bottles. It gives the user 20c for every plastic bottle fed into it. It is really well used and always a queue at it.

When I was at the school, discarded plastic bottles on the school site was a huge issue. I am sure this would solve the problem.

I’m sure there are many of us on here who use to take the pop and beer bottles back to the shop.
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This is coming to UK in 2025 - already been pushed back back once and prob will be again. Basically no desire from government to get behind it.

Recycling in this country is largely a conscience cleanser to allow everyone to think they are doing their ‘bit’.
The government don’t care about the bigger picture (climate change) nor do most of the population.

’I put my plastic out’…….

errr, and that’s it.
 
It comes back to us being a half-arsed country again.

Pay people for stuff to be recycled and it will get recycled; instead what they do is come up with schemes that they don't promote like EPR and then wonder why we aren't doing as well as we should.
 
gramercy said:
That said doesn’t a load of it just end up going to the lowest bidder before being bulldozed over in a developing nation somewhere?
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Hopefully when the new Mura plant is up and running at Wilton, then this will stop.
"The project, based at the Wilton International site, will deliver the world’s first commercial scale plastic recycling plant utilising HydroPRS technology."
Mura Technology
 
1finny said:
This is coming to UK in 2025 - already been pushed back back once and prob will be again. Basically no desire from government to get behind it.

Recycling in this country is largely a conscience cleanser to allow everyone to think they are doing their ‘bit’.
The government don’t care about the bigger picture (climate change) nor do most of the population.

’I put my plastic out’…….

errr, and that’s it.
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We used to have it too as my dad is fond of telling stories about how as kids they used to round up bottles and get the deposit back at the shop then pinch them over the back wall.

I like the Berlin system, you pay extra for everything and get it back when it's taken back
 
ThatFragranceGuy said:
We used to have it too as my dad is fond of telling stories about how as kids they used to round up bottles and get the deposit back at the shop then pinch them over the back wall.

I like the Berlin system, you pay extra for everything and get it back when it's taken back
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When we went to a Dortmund match a few years ago there were loads of empty cans, bottles etc left outside before went in. Place was spotless when we came out as people had taken everything off for recycling.
 
Unravel_Morrison said:
When we went to a Dortmund match a few years ago there were loads of empty cans, bottles etc left outside before went in. Place was spotless when we came out as people had taken everything off for recycling.
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People leave them for homeless people. It's good that those people are getting the money but it also seems like they are de facto working for the council for a teeny, tiny salary.
 
Nano said:
People leave them for homeless people. It's good that those people are getting the money but it also seems like they are de facto working for the council for a teeny, tiny salary.
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They are but I am guessing that's better than the wage that homeless people get here aside from begging.
 
LowMoorBoro said:
I recently moved to Stockton and the recycling here is a joke. A grotty bag for cardboard, paper, tins etc and a box for glass. Gets picked up every 2 weeks so is overflowing after a few days.
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Never really struggled with these myself, no different to the bins but bins take up more space when not full. You can request extra ones if you're filling them up, they'll take them. Ask your local councillor they'll probably drop one off within a day or two. We never fill our glass one but we have 2 of the large sacks for cardboard and plastic.

They have Velcro to seal them shut so if you can't seal it, get an extra one. When it's not in use it folds flat. Bag shouldn't be grotty unless you've put grottty stuff in it?
 
ThatFragranceGuy said:
Never really struggled with these myself, no different to the bins but bins take up more space when not full. You can request extra ones if you're filling them up, they'll take them. Ask your local councillor they'll probably drop one off within a day or two. We never fill our glass one but we have 2 of the large sacks for cardboard and plastic.

They have Velcro to seal them shut so if you can't seal it, get an extra one. When it's not in use it folds flat. Bag shouldn't be grotty unless you've put grottty stuff in it?
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My son lives on the Fairfield estate in Stockton and you can guarantee on recycling day there is rubbish blowing up and down the streets. He also wants me to make him a storage box to hang the bag in.

He as use having a bin and would much rather go back to it. Horses for courses.
 
Norman_Conquest said:
My son lives on the Fairfield estate in Stockton and you can guarantee on recycling day there is rubbish blowing up and down the streets. He also wants me to make him a storage box to hang the bag in.

He as use having a bin and would much rather go back to it. Horses for courses.
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That's because people are massive doyles and don't close the bags. Wind isn't going to open Velcro. In 5 years of living in Ingleby, and living in the town centre before that, I've never had my recycling blow everywhere but I regularly see people just leaving the bag out, in windy weather, the night before and don't close the bag. It's bound to blow around if you leave it like that.

We have a small hook on our garden wall but even before that it didn't go anywhere, just makes it easier to leave out.
 
ThatFragranceGuy said:
That's because people are massive doyles and don't close the bags. Wind isn't going to open Velcro. In 5 years of living in Ingleby, and living in the town centre before that, I've never had my recycling blow everywhere but I regularly see people just leaving the bag out, in windy weather, the night before and don't close the bag. It's bound to blow around if you leave it like that.

We have a small hook on our garden wall but even before that it didn't go anywhere, just makes it easier to leave out.
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Fairfield must be full of divvies because it looks an eye sore and the council have another team following round cleaning up.

It was recently reported in the Gazette that Stockton are looking at going to an all bin system.
 
Norman_Conquest said:
Fairfield must be full of divvies because it looks an eye sore and the council have another team following round cleaning up.

It was recently reported in the Gazette that Stockton are looking at going to an all bin system.
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Most people are divvies. It's a Velcro closing bag, how does it blow out of a closed bag? The answer is simple, people over fill it and don't close it. Get an extra bag if you're filling them, takes up no extra space until it's used.

Re: plans, they're looking at things but here is an update from 30 seconds ago;

Yeah the executive committee are looking at it but I can’t see that happening for a few years and it may not happen at all.

It’s fine for some households but it’s murder for street houses and many semi households
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BillyBoyStu said:
Hopefully when the new Mura plant is up and running at Wilton, then this will stop.
"The project, based at the Wilton International site, will deliver the world’s first commercial scale plastic recycling plant utilising HydroPRS technology."
Mura Technology
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Hmm. Water has to be heated to 373C and its pressure raised to 220 bar to reach its supercritical state. That will take a lot of energy. Will it be green energy? :unsure:
 
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