'Real men don't wear masks'.......FFS

It really does feel like selfishness, ignorance and sheer bloody-minded stupidity have been sharply on the rise these last few years. These people must live with their eyes shut, completely blind to the misery that this pandemic has heaped on people around the globe.
 
bevoboro said:
It really does feel like selfishness, ignorance and sheer bloody-minded stupidity have been sharply on the rise these last few years. These people must live with their eyes shut, completely blind to the misery that this pandemic has heaped on people around the globe.
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I get your sentiment, but I don't think they're living with their eyes wide shut. Their eyes are wide open but they're totally effin simple and propogate this nonsense out of some misguided belief that they are privy to more sound info than you and me and think that their view is somehow, belligerently, the right way forward out of this. They're imbeciles IMO. Sorry if that might seem a bit strong
 
The same 'real men' would happily wear a ventilator mask if required. It's a shame the NHS can't refuse treatment for none mask wearing / antivax loons.

It's bad enough reading that many hospitalised people have refused to have the vaccine. I have little or no lsympathy but that doesn't help the NHS. I'm not sure how'd you feel treating a bloke in his 50s who's refused 2 jabs based on tin pot theory's.
 
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The same 'real men' would happily wear a ventilator mask if required. It's a shame the NHS can't refuse treatment for none mask wearing / antivax loons.

It's bad enough reading that many hospitalised people have refused to have the vaccine. I have little or no lsympathy but that doesn't help the NHS. I'm not sure how'd you feel treating a bloke in his 50s who's refused 2 jabs based on tin pot theory's.
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There's a tiny part of me that thinks a 50yo who refused his jabs and admitted with covid should be left in the corridor but that's not how a progressive or humanitarian society works. I'd rather educate him towards a better informed decision in the error of his judgement on that particular issue, but again, I get your point
 
I know it cant and wont happen, but only if we could levy a charge those that have refused the vaccinne for entirely selfish reasons, because we cant refuse the treatment as that would be inhumane
 
Its obviously all a bit silly to most. But there is perhaps something commendable in the way they organise and demonstrate. You might not agree with their beliefs, I certainly don't. But to them it is a real issue, they believe it to be true, and they are willing to get out there and do what they can.

That is more than can be said of most that espouse the correct opinions online. Showcasing your support for online is free and requires no more effort than the click of a button. What's that famous quote, that i cannot recall right now, something about your principles aren't principles until they cost you something. Butchered it. But they were and are correct.

Truly, what is most ridiculous, marching on the streets for an issue that is important to you, or creating the weekly Brexit thread on here in which we all congratulate each other for knowing better than the other 52 percent of voters, practically revelling in being able to recount another failure, claiming another chance to say I told you so and cement our intellectual superiority, fail to acknowledge or sympathise the conditions that led to the result, instead calling those that dared to vote against us names like we are children on the playground?

JUST AN EXAMPLE of wasted breath. i'm not bringing brexit into it. Please no more Brexit discourse.

You have got to find the positives where you can in these wild times. So, yeah, good on them for getting out there. I think Johnson is a huge bell end, enormous, but can i **** be bothered to make a sign, go into town, and stamp my feet about it. And if the news and polls are anything to go by, neither can any of you.
 
Maybe its marginalisation, a feeling of alienation and hopelessness which has fueled peoples need to find "certainties" in their lives?
Clutching at straws and any theory and rhetoric which presents as "fact" and offers a [false] way forward?
Just like those who clung to Hitler and the right in Europe - who appeared to be offering a passport out of poverty and desperation.
Dangerous and skewed.
Intelligent people will cling to untenable irrational "reasoning" and propaganda when they can see no way out.

 
I wear one of those stretch snood things that can also double as a neck warmer and sweat band. Easy to pull up and down over the mouth and nose.
 
ThirdLeg said:
Its obviously all a bit silly to most. But there is perhaps something commendable in the way they organise and demonstrate. You might not agree with their beliefs, I certainly don't. But to them it is a real issue, they believe it to be true, and they are willing to get out there and do what they can.

That is more than can be said of most that espouse the correct opinions online. Showcasing your support for online is free and requires no more effort than the click of a button. What's that famous quote, that i cannot recall right now, something about your principles aren't principles until they cost you something. Butchered it. But they were and are correct.

Truly, what is most ridiculous, marching on the streets for an issue that is important to you, or creating the weekly Brexit thread on here in which we all congratulate each other for knowing better than the other 52 percent of voters, practically revelling in being able to recount another failure, claiming another chance to say I told you so and cement our intellectual superiority, fail to acknowledge or sympathise the conditions that led to the result, instead calling those that dared to vote against us names like we are children on the playground?

JUST AN EXAMPLE of wasted breath. i'm not bringing brexit into it. Please no more Brexit discourse.

You have got to find the positives where you can in these wild times. So, yeah, good on them for getting out there. I think Johnson is a huge bell end, enormous, but can i **** be bothered to make a sign, go into town, and stamp my feet about it. And if the news and polls are anything to go by, neither can any of you.
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Personally I find it very strange that someone would give up their weekend to protest such a trivial and insignificant thing. Freedom is the only thing that has mattered to most of us over the last year, we pretty much have that now, spend it with family/friends, don’t waste it because your angry at sticking a bit of cloth over your mouth to do your shopping.
 
JM14 said:
Personally I find it very strange that someone would give up their weekend to protest such a trivial and insignificant thing. Freedom is the only thing that has mattered to most of us over the last year, we pretty much have that now, spend it with family/friends, don’t waste it because your angry at sticking a bit of cloth over your mouth to do your shopping.
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We don't have the freedom and don't let the clowns in government convince you do either.

Yes we can see family and friends but that shouldn't be dictated by government ever, I flat out refuse to let someone I've never met decide when and where I can see my own parents for example.

The sooner all this pandemic crap is over the better and more people will soon come to the conclusion that the government have never had our best interests at heart.
 
ThirdLeg said:
Its obviously all a bit silly to most. But there is perhaps something commendable in the way they organise and demonstrate. You might not agree with their beliefs, I certainly don't. But to them it is a real issue, they believe it to be true, and they are willing to get out there and do what they can.

That is more than can be said of most that espouse the correct opinions online. Showcasing your support for online is free and requires no more effort than the click of a button. What's that famous quote, that i cannot recall right now, something about your principles aren't principles until they cost you something. Butchered it. But they were and are correct.

Truly, what is most ridiculous, marching on the streets for an issue that is important to you, or creating the weekly Brexit thread on here in which we all congratulate each other for knowing better than the other 52 percent of voters, practically revelling in being able to recount another failure, claiming another chance to say I told you so and cement our intellectual superiority, fail to acknowledge or sympathise the conditions that led to the result, instead calling those that dared to vote against us names like we are children on the playground?

JUST AN EXAMPLE of wasted breath. i'm not bringing brexit into it. Please no more Brexit discourse.

You have got to find the positives where you can in these wild times. So, yeah, good on them for getting out there. I think Johnson is a huge bell end, enormous, but can i **** be bothered to make a sign, go into town, and stamp my feet about it. And if the news and polls are anything to go by, neither can any of you.
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Good point. There's a rally against Tory lies on next Saturday at 1pm at Monument in Newcastle, organised by North East For Europe - #WeDemandBetter. Everyone welcome, cross-party.
 
Randy said:
We don't have the freedom and don't let the clowns in government convince you do either.

Yes we can see family and friends but that shouldn't be dictated by government ever, I flat out refuse to let someone I've never met decide when and where I can see my own parents for example.

The sooner all this pandemic crap is over the better and more people will soon come to the conclusion that the government have never had our best interests at heart.
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There’s no intention of any of this ending any time soon. First it was “vaccines are our way out of this” now that has changed to “testing is our way out of this”. There has been wall to wall 24/7 gaslighting by most of the MSM to such an extent that the vast majority have now accepted their new normal - we are living in anything but normal right now, and it absolutely will not end unless us the people end it ourselves. It really is as simple as that. In the autumn people will start dying and it will be blamed on children and the relatively small number who haven’t been injected. I think they’ll use this as their excuse to introduce mandatory vax and finally get their whole population jabbed target - an guess what, we’ll still be in lockdown afterwards




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Funky_Chicken said:
There’s no intention of any of this ending any time soon. First it was “vaccines are our way out of this” now that has changed to “testing is our way out of this”. There has been wall to wall 24/7 gaslighting by most of the MSM to such an extent that the vast majority have now accepted their new normal - we are living in anything but normal right now, and it absolutely will not end unless us the people end it ourselves. It really is as simple as that. In the autumn people will start dying and it will be blamed on children and the relatively small number who haven’t been injected. I think they’ll use this as their excuse to introduce mandatory vax and finally get their whole population jabbed target - an guess what, we’ll still be in lockdown afterwards




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Why do you think they want to take away your freedom? How will they benefit? What has caused the Western governments to turn against freedom having fought against totalitarianism and communism for so many years? Don't you think we are actually up to our nipples in freedom? I mean we're pretty much destroying the planet and exhausting our resources.
 
Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret said:
Why do you think they want to take away your freedom? How will they benefit? What has caused the Western governments to turn against freedom having fought against totalitarianism and communism for so many years? Don't you think we are actually up to our nipples in freedom? I mean we're pretty much destroying the planet and exhausting our resources.
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I agree with you there - we are indeed destroying the planet and exhausting it’s resources. We’re the only species that has a negative impact on the planet, and we’re the only ones that extend our lives when really we’re meant to die. The planet would really benefit from there being a lot less humans on it




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ThirdLeg said:
Its obviously all a bit silly to most. But there is perhaps something commendable in the way they organise and demonstrate. You might not agree with their beliefs, I certainly don't. But to them it is a real issue, they believe it to be true, and they are willing to get out there and do what they can.

That is more than can be said of most that espouse the correct opinions online. Showcasing your support for online is free and requires no more effort than the click of a button. What's that famous quote, that i cannot recall right now, something about your principles aren't principles until they cost you something. Butchered it. But they were and are correct.

Truly, what is most ridiculous, marching on the streets for an issue that is important to you, or creating the weekly Brexit thread on here in which we all congratulate each other for knowing better than the other 52 percent of voters, practically revelling in being able to recount another failure, claiming another chance to say I told you so and cement our intellectual superiority, fail to acknowledge or sympathise the conditions that led to the result, instead calling those that dared to vote against us names like we are children on the playground?

JUST AN EXAMPLE of wasted breath. i'm not bringing brexit into it. Please no more Brexit discourse.

You have got to find the positives where you can in these wild times. So, yeah, good on them for getting out there. I think Johnson is a huge bell end, enormous, but can i **** be bothered to make a sign, go into town, and stamp my feet about it. And if the news and polls are anything to go by, neither can any of you.
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Some very powerful points raised there.
 
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