Rail strikes hit Eurovision…

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I’m not sure but I imagine most of the travellers there fully support the workers right to strike and won’t be divided by the media rhetoric on this issue…

the vile Sophie cororcan (look her up on twitter) went as far as to state the strikes are hitting working class low paid workers more and their ability to go to the Eurovisionon the train…

I’m sure most low paid working class people aren’t prioritising a trip on an overly inflated priced train to a city where accommodation has been pushed out the reach of mid payed people to watch a hugely televised singing competition… they’ll be worrying about how to survive in Tory Britain…
 
I wonder why the RMT might want to target an event that brings the whole of Europe together to celebrate Ukraine? Maybe when their assistant general secretary takes a break from eulogising pro-Putin separatists we can ask him.

Eddie Dempsey (RMT assistant general secretary) on the left. Aleksey Mozgovoy (leader of the separatists in Luhansk) on the right:

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I'll be honest; I couldn't give a shiny $hite about Eurovision. Though that's just me and I'm sure plenty do.

I gave more concern to the fact that I had an 8 hour travel between finishing on site at Westminster yesterday and arriving at digs in Canterbury in Kent (hardly the length and breadth of the UK) between jobs. Whilst dragging around a large amount of kit with me.

The last pay rise I had was a few years ago now (despite the horror of the cost of living crisis) and it certainly didn't get backdated for over a year when I got it as well as applied for the upcoming year. And if it had I certainly wouldn't have striked, refusing it. Whilst I earn a decent amount it's largely down to hammering the hours in, sometimes over 85 a week. Outside, in all elements.

So please forgive me if thoughts enter my mind from time to time that the RMT are being greedy barstewards.
 
If people feel underpaid and or undervalued then the thing to so is get onto your own bosses or unions and put pressure on to raise standards or wages.

Not have a go at workers in other industries who are taking action to raise their own standard of living or working conditions.

The 1%ers and the Tories that work to protect their interests want us to be squabbling amongst ourselves for scraps. It's called divide and rule.
 
Colgates_shaving_foam said:
If people feel underpaid and or undervalued then the thing to so is get onto your own bosses or unions and put pressure on to raise standards or wages.

Not have a go at workers in other industries who are taking action to raise their own standard of living or working conditions.

The 1%ers and the Tories that work to protect their interests want us to be squabbling amongst ourselves for scraps. It's called divide and rule.
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I have no qualms about anyone wanting to better their conditions. And the sooner this government are out, the better. If we could have it then I'd definitely agree with everyone getting a huge rise to cope with extraordinarily rising prices.

The initial strikes I would have fully supported, however a 4% rise, backdated for a year at that, is a pretty decent offer, considering most of the rest of us are getting small standard rises or fu(k all. So for them to make the lives of the rest of us miserable whilst they clamour for more is taking it just a tad too far in my opinion.

Like I said, if someone offered me what they'd had, which is effectively an 8% rise for a year, whilst most are getting buttons, followed by 4% I'd have snapped their bloody hands off. I certainly wouldn't have knocked it back and gone back on further strikes. They're just lucky enough to work in an industry where they can stamp their feet louder due to the potential chaos it will cause.

Would you support the full police force going on strike repeatedly as an 8% for a year rise "just wasn't enough" whilst the UK turned to lawless crime-spree chaos and riots like Tottenham in 2011 (only far worse as that was WITH a police presence, admittedly one unprepared, in this case there would be weeks of notice for the criminal fraternities to plan which shops and institutions to hit and render bankrupt, as well as roaming battering of anyone they didn't like the look of, think "The Purge" on a watered down scale for whole weekends) by the ne-er do wells knowing they could do anything unchallenged for every weekend there was such a strike?
 
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Ipad1977 said:
I have no qualms about anyone wanting to better their conditions. And the sooner this government are out, the better. If we could have it then I'd definitely agree with everyone getting a huge rise to cope with extraordinarily rising prices.

The initial strikes I would have fully supported, however a 4% rise, backdated for a year at that, is a pretty decent offer, considering most of the rest of us are getting small standard rises or fu(k all. So for them to make the lives of the rest of us miserable whilst they clamour for more is taking it just a tad too far in my opinion.

Like I said, if someone offered me what they'd had, which is effectively an 8% rise for a year, whilst most are getting buttons, followed by 4% I'd have snapped their bloody hands off. I certainly wouldn't have knocked it back and gone back on further strikes. They're just lucky enough to work in an industry where they can stamp their feet louder due to the potential chaos it will cause.

Would you support the full police force going on strike repeatedly as an 8% for a year rise "just wasn't enough" whilst the UK turned to lawless crime-spree chaos and riots like Tottenham in 2011 (only far worse as that was WITH a police presence, admittedly one unprepared, in this case there would be weeks of notice for the criminal fraternities to plan which shops and institutions to hit and render bankrupt, as well as roaming battering of anyone they didn't like the look of, think "The Purge" on a watered down scale for whole weekends) by the ne-er do wells knowing they could do anything unchallenged for every weekend there was such a strike?
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I think the 15% given to the barristers should be matched everywhere else otherwise living standards are falling when they don't need to be.

As for the working class being hit at Eurovision, that's already been done by the greedy profiteering going on in the city of Liverpool together with the failed ticketing which allowed company bots to take tickets by queue jumping, then selling them on at extortionate prices on ticket tour sites.

My wife was to meet her mate over there, they're over the moon that the train strike has allowed them to get refunds for an event they regretted planning for. It's cheaper to fly to Europe for it than watch it on your own doorstep.
 
Ipad1977 said:
I have no qualms about anyone wanting to better their conditions. And the sooner this government are out, the better. If we could have it then I'd definitely agree with everyone getting a huge rise to cope with extraordinarily rising prices.

The initial strikes I would have fully supported, however a 4% rise, backdated for a year at that, is a pretty decent offer, considering most of the rest of us are getting small standard rises or fu(k all. So for them to make the lives of the rest of us miserable whilst they clamour for more is taking it just a tad too far in my opinion.

Like I said, if someone offered me what they'd had, which is effectively an 8% rise for a year, whilst most are getting buttons, followed by 4% I'd have snapped their bloody hands off. I certainly wouldn't have knocked it back and gone back on further strikes. They're just lucky enough to work in an industry where they can stamp their feet louder due to the potential chaos it will cause.

Would you support the full police force going on strike repeatedly as an 8% for a year rise "just wasn't enough" whilst the UK turned to lawless crime-spree chaos and riots like Tottenham in 2011 (only far worse as that was WITH a police presence, admittedly one unprepared, in this case there would be weeks of notice for the criminal fraternities to plan which shops and institutions to hit and render bankrupt, as well as roaming battering of anyone they didn't like the look of, think "The Purge" on a watered down scale for whole weekends) by the ne-er do wells knowing they could do anything unchallenged for every weekend there was such a strike?
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Its not just about the percentage though is it? Its about the workers trying to stand up to changes in their terms and conditions AND trying to protect their own jobs.
 
Ipad1977 said:
I have no qualms about anyone wanting to better their conditions. And the sooner this government are out, the better. If we could have it then I'd definitely agree with everyone getting a huge rise to cope with extraordinarily rising prices.

The initial strikes I would have fully supported, however a 4% rise, backdated for a year at that, is a pretty decent offer, considering most of the rest of us are getting small standard rises or fu(k all. So for them to make the lives of the rest of us miserable whilst they clamour for more is taking it just a tad too far in my opinion.

Like I said, if someone offered me what they'd had, which is effectively an 8% rise for a year, whilst most are getting buttons, followed by 4% I'd have snapped their bloody hands off. I certainly wouldn't have knocked it back and gone back on further strikes. They're just lucky enough to work in an industry where they can stamp their feet louder due to the potential chaos it will cause.

Would you support the full police force going on strike repeatedly as an 8% for a year rise "just wasn't enough" whilst the UK turned to lawless crime-spree chaos and riots like Tottenham in 2011 (only far worse as that was WITH a police presence, admittedly one unprepared, in this case there would be weeks of notice for the criminal fraternities to plan which shops and institutions to hit and render bankrupt, as well as roaming battering of anyone they didn't like the look of, think "The Purge" on a watered down scale for whole weekends) by the ne-er do wells knowing they could do anything unchallenged for every weekend there was such a strike?
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What time does your paper boy deliver the sun and daily mail to your house?
 
Ipad1977 said:
I have no qualms about anyone wanting to better their conditions. And the sooner this government are out, the better. If we could have it then I'd definitely agree with everyone getting a huge rise to cope with extraordinarily rising prices.

The initial strikes I would have fully supported, however a 4% rise, backdated for a year at that, is a pretty decent offer, considering most of the rest of us are getting small standard rises or fu(k all. So for them to make the lives of the rest of us miserable whilst they clamour for more is taking it just a tad too far in my opinion.

Like I said, if someone offered me what they'd had, which is effectively an 8% rise for a year, whilst most are getting buttons, followed by 4% I'd have snapped their bloody hands off. I certainly wouldn't have knocked it back and gone back on further strikes. They're just lucky enough to work in an industry where they can stamp their feet louder due to the potential chaos it will cause.

Would you support the full police force going on strike repeatedly as an 8% for a year rise "just wasn't enough" whilst the UK turned to lawless crime-spree chaos and riots like Tottenham in 2011 (only far worse as that was WITH a police presence, admittedly one unprepared, in this case there would be weeks of notice for the criminal fraternities to plan which shops and institutions to hit and render bankrupt, as well as roaming battering of anyone they didn't like the look of, think "The Purge" on a watered down scale for whole weekends) by the ne-er do wells knowing they could do anything unchallenged for every weekend there was such a strike?
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Wow. Not everyone wants to have to work 85 hours per week to earn a decent living.

I dont know what a theoretical police strike and and theoretical riots have to do with the train strikes.

Since when is an offer at below inflation a decent offer?
 
Ipad1977 said:
The initial strikes I would have fully supported, however a 4% rise, backdated for a year at that, is a pretty decent offer, considering most of the rest of us are getting small standard rises or fu(k all. So for them to make the lives of the rest of us miserable whilst they clamour for more is taking it just a tad too far in my opinion.
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Just to make it clear, it’s the mega rich elite in government who are making peoples lives miserable, not the workers striking because they were offered a wage increase significantly below inflation
 
Ipad1977 said:
I have no qualms about anyone wanting to better their conditions. And the sooner this government are out, the better. If we could have it then I'd definitely agree with everyone getting a huge rise to cope with extraordinarily rising prices.

The initial strikes I would have fully supported, however a 4% rise, backdated for a year at that, is a pretty decent offer, considering most of the rest of us are getting small standard rises or fu(k all. So for them to make the lives of the rest of us miserable whilst they clamour for more is taking it just a tad too far in my opinion.

Like I said, if someone offered me what they'd had, which is effectively an 8% rise for a year, whilst most are getting buttons, followed by 4% I'd have snapped their bloody hands off. I certainly wouldn't have knocked it back and gone back on further strikes. They're just lucky enough to work in an industry where they can stamp their feet louder due to the potential chaos it will cause.

Would you support the full police force going on strike repeatedly as an 8% for a year rise "just wasn't enough" whilst the UK turned to lawless crime-spree chaos and riots like Tottenham in 2011 (only far worse as that was WITH a police presence, admittedly one unprepared, in this case there would be weeks of notice for the criminal fraternities to plan which shops and institutions to hit and render bankrupt, as well as roaming battering of anyone they didn't like the look of, think "The Purge" on a watered down scale for whole weekends) by the ne-er do wells knowing they could do anything unchallenged for every weekend there was such a strike?
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As others have said Ipad, it's not even about the payrise any more. I was on strike yesterday, and think the way we and other working class people have been treated by the government has been horrific. We are nothing more than pawns in a game, told we have to make cuts and rationalisations to save money, never mind minimal rises ourselves when compared to inflation, all the while the government continue to find millions to shell out on failures and lining their own pockets.

I know other colleagues at some TOCs who would rather take a 0% deal with no condition changes, than any of the insane intentions being forced by the RDG.
 
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