Quick free kicks

anth25

anth25

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What is the ruling on these.

Why are teams allowed to take quick free kicks all over the pitch apart from when there is a shooting opportunity. Last night Lath was fouled about 30yds out from goal. McGree was on the ball but he didn't give us an advantage. McGree then placed the ball down in the correct position and played a through ball to Lath who was in on goal. It was the foul that lead to Barlasers free kick for anyone that has watched the highlights.

For me if the defending team aren't ready then that is on them. The attacking team should be given the advantage assuming the free kick is taken in the right place.

Really annoyed me last night as Lath was through and would have been one on one (whether he would have scored is a separate discussion!)
 
I always thought it was down to the Ref?

Whether he was ready and happy for it to go on quickly etc not sure though.
 
I think you need to let the ref know you’re taking a quick one. Usually he will ask the question when he blows the whistle. Also if the ball isn’t stationary when you play it, the ref will stop play.
 
The free kick law needs changing.
you only get a free kick when the other team breaks a rule yet on 99% of occasions the offending team is allowed to reset and get back into position before the free kick is take.
A good addition would be to allow the kicker to pass the ball to them-self a bit like Rugby League and continue play immediately.
Same goes for an injured player having to leave the field. Why does the team thats been offended against have to lose a player yet the team that makes the offence stay at full strength.
 
Redpete said:
The free kick law needs changing.
you only get a free kick when the other team breaks a rule yet on 99% of occasions the offending team is allowed to reset and get back into position before the free kick is take.
A good addition would be to allow the kicker to pass the ball to them-self a bit like Rugby League and continue play immediately.
Same goes for an injured player having to leave the field. Why does the team thats been offended against have to lose a player yet the team that makes the offence stay at full strength.
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This is exactly my view. We were the team that had been fouled (ignoring the fact that he already blew up too early when McGree had an advantage) so why let them get set and ready to defend a freekick that was 30yds out and gave us an extremely low chance of scoring.

I don't buy the fact that you need to let the ref know you are taking a quick one. Quick free kicks are taken all the time all over the pitch and there is no way that the players are asking the ref's permission before they do that.

The rule should be changed so that the team that's been fouled can get straight on with it assuming it is in the right spot and the ball isn't moving
 
I thought it was the other way round - you can take a quick one whenever but if you're taking a "set piece" where they might want a wall etc... then you have to wait for the whistle
 
The ref should stop you taking a quick freekick in two scenarios. One if if he intends to issue a card. The second being when you have asked for the players to be back 10 yards.

The second generally only being an issue when in shooting range. The ref will usually ask whether they want the wall to be paced out. Once the attacking team says yes and the ref starts to pace out for a wall, they can't take it until he blows his whistle.
 
Redpete said:
The free kick law needs changing.
you only get a free kick when the other team breaks a rule yet on 99% of occasions the offending team is allowed to reset and get back into position before the free kick is take.
A good addition would be to allow the kicker to pass the ball to them-self a bit like Rugby League and continue play immediately.
Same goes for an injured player having to leave the field. Why does the team thats been offended against have to lose a player yet the team that makes the offence stay at full strength.
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The injured player one is a stupid way to try and combat diving and time-wasting when they could just implement the rules properly. Basically, there is so much cheating from players pretending that they are injured that the consequence of blanket applying a punishment stops more cheating than it negatively affects legitimate injuries. There are other far better solutions to cheating and time-wasting such as a clock that only runs when the ball is in play and retrospective punishment for diving.
 
I dont think you need to stop the game to issue a card, you could allow play to continue with a quick free kick then issue the card once play has stopped.

Prime example of this is when a team gets a quick break and the opposition player " takes one for the team " You should be allowed to continue play with a free kick to yourself and continue the break, if fouled again in the same play Red card.
 
Redpete said:
I dont think you need to stop the game to issue a card, you could allow play to continue with a quick free kick then issue the card once play has stopped.

Prime example of this is when a team gets a quick break and the opposition player " takes one for the team " You should be allowed to continue play with a free kick to yourself and continue the break, if fouled again in the same play Red card.
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The referee needs to issue the card at earliest opportunity.
He won't issue a card until the game stops if he plays advantage but he will stop a freekick being taken.
 
B_G said:
The referee needs to issue the card at earliest opportunity.
He won't issue a card until the game stops if he plays advantage but he will stop a freekick being taken.
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The rules have changed on this one as well. If a tackle is made to attempt to break up play but advantage is played there will be no yellow card. A yellow card will only be awarded if there is no advantage. The referee can go back and book a player if it was a bad tackle which would warrant a yellow card but the yellow card for trying to prevent an attack is only issued if it prevents an attack.

Advantage​

If the referee plays the advantage for an offence for which a caution/sending-off would have been issued had play been stopped, this caution/sending-off must be issued when the ball is next out of play. However, if the offence was denying the opposing team an obvious goal-scoring opportunity the player is cautioned for unsporting behaviour; if the offence was interfering with or stopping a promising attack, the player is not cautioned.

Advantage should not be applied in situations involving serious foul play, violent conduct or a second cautionable offence unless there is a clear opportunity to score a goal. The referee must send off the player when the ball is next out of play, but if the player plays the ball or challenges/interferes with an opponent, the referee will stop play, send off the player and restart with an indirect free kick, unless the player committed a more serious offence.
 
So my post is correct then isn't it. Your post agrees with it.

Nano said:
If the referee plays the advantage for an offence for which a caution/sending-off would have been issued had play been stopped, this caution/sending-off must be issued when the ball is next out of play.
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B_G said:
The referee needs to issue the card at earliest opportunity.
He won't issue a card until the game stops if he plays advantage but he will stop a freekick being taken.
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B_G said:
So my post is correct then isn't it. Your post agrees with it.
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Yes and no. If a quick free kick is taken then the referee can come back and book the player when there is another stoppage. There doesn't have to be a booking immediately but if the referee has begun sanctioning a player (got the card out or called the player over etc) then play can't be restarted via a quick free kick.

Delaying the restart of play to show a card​

Once the referee has decided to caution or send off a player, play must not be restarted until the sanction has been administered, unless the non-offending team takes a quick free kick, has a clear goal-scoring opportunity and the referee has not started the disciplinary sanction procedure. The sanction is administered at the next stoppage; if the offence was denying the opposing team an obvious goal-scoring opportunity, the player is cautioned; if the offence interfered with or stopped a promising attack, the player is not cautioned.
 
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My point is the rule should be changed, you shouldn't need to stop play to issue a card, if a player/team wants to continue play quickly after a foul is committed that should be their choice and not the referees.

The potential problem with young fit players and not so young not so fit referees is the Ref will struggle to keep up with play, and I bet on several occasions the Ref is happy to stop play to get a breather.
 
Redpete said:
The free kick law needs changing.
you only get a free kick when the other team breaks a rule yet on 99% of occasions the offending team is allowed to reset and get back into position before the free kick is take.
A good addition would be to allow the kicker to pass the ball to them-self a bit like Rugby League and continue play immediately.
Same goes for an injured player having to leave the field. Why does the team thats been offended against have to lose a player yet the team that makes the offence stay at full strength.
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I'd agree and I'd also like to see quick free kicks allowed from anywhere behind the spot of the foul as long as the ball's still.
 
Redpete said:
The free kick law needs changing.
you only get a free kick when the other team breaks a rule yet on 99% of occasions the offending team is allowed to reset and get back into position before the free kick is take.
A good addition would be to allow the kicker to pass the ball to them-self a bit like Rugby League and continue play immediately.
Same goes for an injured player having to leave the field. Why does the team thats been offended against have to lose a player yet the team that makes the offence stay at full strength.
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The injury one is necessary, as more than half of alleged injuries are about time wasting or trying to get an opponent sanctioned. Before that rule came in the time wasting was even worse, it was horrendous.
 
Priv said:
The injury one is necessary, as more than half of alleged injuries are about time wasting or trying to get an opponent sanctioned. Before that rule came in the time wasting was even worse, it was horrendous.
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Wouldn't it be better if the time is added on for any stoppage at the end of 90 minutes which should stop or at least reduce time-wasting rather than loosing one of your players for a period of time largely through no fault of your own.

Or if the player making the foul then receives a yellow card they also leave the pitch along with the fouled player.
 
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