PMQs

[KingOfTheTribes]

Starmer today was setting up Johnson for the votes next week where the Government will fail to produce evidence for the 10pm rule, Labour will then vote with Government rebels and Johnson will lose his first vote despite his massive majority.

This will be the turning point for Labour to go on the offensive as cases spiral out of control and the Government flat around wondering what they can do without locking the whole country down.

 

[Chris_Boro]

Starmer is doing what he can with 6 questions and is doing a great job of exposing Boris Johnson inadequacies every week to the point Tory backbenchers look very uncomfortable.

The trouble is Johnson simply ignores the question by either asking a pointless one of his own or grandstanding a party political broadcast. Until a day the speaker has the power to stop this, there will be very else little Starmer can do.

People want to see knockout blows but politics is a long game and needs to be played as such.

 

[Chris_Boro]

Starmer all over the place again. We support local lockdown/we don't support them show us the evidence. He is the master of trying to please everyone as we know from his Brexit policy

Boris Johnson is privy to information and advice Keir Starmer is not. Starmer has to support measures on the belief that Johnson is doing so guided by science. Otherwise he would be accused of undermining efforts to control the pandemic.

When it becomes apparent that measures were not guided by science it is then right to question this.

Clearly the 10pm curfew was not guided by science and is not working, Boris Johnson should be scrutinised for this.

 

[Ziggy]

Starmer is doing what he can with 6 questions and is doing a great job of exposing Boris Johnson inadequacies every week to the point Tory backbenchers look very uncomfortable.

The trouble is Johnson simply ignores the question by either asking a pointless one of his own or grandstanding a party political broadcast. Until a day the speaker has the power to stop this, there will be very else little Starmer can do.

People want to see knockout blows but politics is a long game and needs to be played as such.

That's it. From Starmer's first PMQS. The audience, if you like, is not us or the opposition parties, even his own. It's the Tory backbenchers.
It's politics it's about power, like all others the Tory party only exist to gain power, use it and hang on to it. They have and will ditch anyone who they feel puts that in jeopardy Even with a 80 seat majority. Especially now because they know what's coming.

 

[BoroGold]

When was PMQs ever anything other than an insult to the intelligence of the hard working tax payers of this once great country Country ? it tells us nothing, apart from the fact that Parliament consists of a bunch of ignoramusses.
If Children in school hooted and hollered abuse like the Westminster yobs, there'd be hell to play.
The Question I'd like to ask the bleeding lot of 'em is, what is the point of PMQs ?

 

[Borobuddah]

“Whilst the blatant corruption and failure continues, whilst the Tories continue to fill the pockets of their friends and donors, can we really afford a LOTO who doesn't care anymore?“

This is exactly the point a socialist should be hammering, it’s a scandal and the real reason the system from serco track and trace, PPE supply etc have failed causing death and the wrecking of the economy.

It’s an open goal

 

[bear66]

“Whilst the blatant corruption and failure continues, whilst the Tories continue to fill the pockets of their friends and donors, can we really afford a LOTO who doesn't care anymore?“

This is exactly the point a socialist should be hammering, it’s a scandal and the real reason the system from serco track and trace, PPE supply etc have failed causing death and the wrecking of the economy.

It’s an open goal

Unfortunately the PM and right wing press are playing on another field.

 

[Laughing]

I'd like to see more bite from Starmer, but he will be limited in what he can say and do. Angela Rayner would probably be much more offensive, but I am not sure that plays well to the voters. Bare in mind Starmer is not trying to convince Labour voters, he is trying to turn conservative and swing voters and all out attacking Johnson may alienate him to enough tory supporters that his chance of ousting the tory government is drastically reduced.

The people saying he has an open goal may well be the same folk who ask why people still voted tory. They can't really have it both ways. There is, like it or not, some people who think Johnson is doing an OK job under difficult circumstances.

 

[FatCat]

I’m not so sure he’s focussing in the right area challenging the science behind the ten o clock curfew. It’s very difficult to isolate one area and say this has/hasn’t caused cases to rise/fall. I always saw the curfew as a compromise between keeping businesses in the hospitality service ticking over whilst still trying to minimise the rise of COVID. It may help it certainly can’t do any harm.

anyone who’s ever been to a pub realises the last hour is much messier than early doors. Making that last hour 9-10 may be neither here nor there in the fight against covid. As with all good statistics I’m sure you could argue it either way - the worrying thing is we are still no clearer on how the virus moves and spreads - there is so much conflicting info. I read again today that US scientists are saying the disease is airborne. A bit like the previous debate about the efficacy of masks. As well as the government I don’t think the scientists have particularly covered themselves in glory throughout this.

anyway as mentioned i think Starmer focussing on this one unverifiable issue doesn’t really help matters. Maybe as some say it’s part of his master plan.

 

[Same_as_before]

Time some of you moved on from your little night of glory when you stuffed it up the elite.

Somehow that elite survived and you've actually made them stronger since, they now don't even have to try to cover up their shameful behaviour.

I do think it was about Brexit and Corbyn . I do think Corbyn would have had a better government than this shower, but so would Ant and Dec.
I cannot count the number of people who I know who did not vote Labour for the first time. They were not dim when they voted Labour, they were not dim when they could not vote for Corbyn and they won't be dim when they vote for Starmer

 

[BlindBoyGrunt]

I do think it was about Brexit and Corbyn . I do think Corbyn would have had a better government than this shower, but so would Ant and Dec.
I cannot count the number of people who I know who did not vote Labour for the first time. They were not dim when they voted Labour, they were not dim when they could not vote for Corbyn and they won't be dim when they vote for Starmer

Many of the red wall who turned Tory did it because of brexit. Corbyn was respecting the brexit vote and aiming to leave with close ties intact. However Keir Starmer insisted upon the People's Vote and this is what spooked the red wall. If Starmer wants to regain their trust then he has a lot of work to do.

Labour lost 54 seats to the Tories at the last election. Here are 42 of them.

 

[Same_as_before]

I agree, but I doubt 10% of the population knew who Starter was.

This site is not representative , it's highly politicised.

I don't think he has to try hard, it's pretty much in the bag, but that does no good without winning a few seats in SNP land.