Pension Payment of £333,000
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ThatFragranceGuy
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Sounds like it was negotiated with the trade Union. It's a lot of money, but it slims down the management structure with a view to saving 200k a year. The same happens at any company when they make staff redundant, they pay out a lot up front and make savings down the line. The first time it happened to me I was on just 23k a year and I got £25k payment between shares and payout, and £3k to spend on training. I imagine terms are more generous at council director level in line with the market for the pool of people you need to recruit into the roles, same with ceos, charity directors etc
You don't really get council directors willing to do the job for 20k salary. They'll just work in private sectors instead
You don't really get council directors willing to do the job for 20k salary. They'll just work in private sectors instead
Omega
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I hear the private sector line all the. Time how many of them have worked in the private sector. They all seem to work their way up through the council and if they where head hunted out of the private sector what type of pension are we giving them as well as very generous wages. The council was always good pension to make up for better pay in the private sector but you don’t have the risks of unemployment as you do in private sector. I bet in Redcar Stockton and Middlesbrough and Hartlepool which for me should all be under 1 council Their will be at lest 15 people at the top on 6 figure sums
Low_Key
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this is a no brainer in these days of "austerity". why have 4 people doing the same jobs and getting paid over 150k when you can have 1 person.
Unravel_Morrison
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So there should be if they are doing good work.
norfolkngood
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Isn't unemployment the reason why the pay off is being made?
So are you suggesting 1 council with 15 people at the top or 1 council with 10 or 11 people having the risk of redundancy which they don't get in the public sector?
Pull your head in man and come into the real up to date world.
ThatFragranceGuy
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Well your agenda is laid fairly bare
Middlesbrough isn't a Labour council
Plenty of conservative councils are in a state
If only there was some reason why the north was so poor. Like maybe having their industries and railways decimated by the conservatives and councils starved of cash for years
Why stop at one council for those towns?
Why not just have a north eastern council? Or a northern one? Or a Uk one? Actually let's just let the mps do it.
Omega
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I am not blue either as I think they are Cxnts as well but I do blame labour for the loss of industry in my life time in Teeside. Where was the help for Teeside when labour where in power. Look I am not trying to debate labour or cons I think they are all as bad as each other but if you do not think our local councils have nothing to do with the state of this area them I am afraid we have different views on it. I think they keep claiming their skint then always big payouts and very poor decision making. If not all authorities under one council surely Middlesbrough and Redcar should be as neither are that big that one council could not look after both
ThatFragranceGuy
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They don't keep claiming they are skint, they are skint, Stockton council gets £75m a YEAR less from the government compared to 2010. But they also have adult social care to pay for?
Find me an organisation as large as a council with roles responsible for the sort of budgets these guys are responsible for and they will be on bigger wages and payouts for redundancy.
What help could Labour have given industry in teesside?
What makes you think a larger supercouncil would be more efficient? You would get higher wages and payouts for starters as it would be more responsibility and remit. There would be complaints about areas not receiving correct focus. Is the guy in charge from Middlesbrough? Peope from Redcar complain it's not fair. Same with other way round. How is finding split between areas?
Find me an organisation as large as a council with roles responsible for the sort of budgets these guys are responsible for and they will be on bigger wages and payouts for redundancy.
What help could Labour have given industry in teesside?
What makes you think a larger supercouncil would be more efficient? You would get higher wages and payouts for starters as it would be more responsibility and remit. There would be complaints about areas not receiving correct focus. Is the guy in charge from Middlesbrough? Peope from Redcar complain it's not fair. Same with other way round. How is finding split between areas?
Corcaigh_the_Cat
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It was a no brainer when the Tories abolished. Cleveland Council.
Corcaigh_the_Cat
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Industry disappearing has got nothing to do with the local council, regardless of colour of rosette.
ThatFragranceGuy
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Plus the fact you wouldn't get one person on £150k instead of 4 people. People aren't daft; if they're doing 4 peoples work they will have pay and benefits to reflect that, and a much larger team underneath them to get things done.
That isn't to say there isn't benefits to consolidating but it's not as simple as getting rid of 3 people and the one that is left does their work. These are full time jobs with massive remit and budgets etc, they're not doing 2 hours work a day and can just be cast aside
FatFrank
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I'd love to hear your interpretation of a mess in Stockton.
Ever thought that the redundancy and pension payment is so enormous is purely because the individual has spent his entire life within the authority and may have paid high amounts of AVCs into his pot???
Too quick to judge when they see an attention grabbing headline from by-far the worst local paper in the North East.
ThatFragranceGuy
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Do you know?
You don't need degrees to command those wages, you need experience which you neither gain in private or public sector
Sounds like you should get a job at one of these councils and work your way up to a six figure salary if it's so easy.
JonnyHistory
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Emmersons_BrazillianDong
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You've fallen hook line and sinker for the lines the central government have fed you about councils.
They've removed billions in central funding for local councils since 2010. How would life be for you if you were paid 50-70% less than you were in 2010 and then you were told that you had to do even more?
Then when the councils desperately need the cash Central government allow them to increase council tax because they know locals will blame the council.
Then they underfund Labour Councils and give more to their mates in Con councils to sweeten the deal. Absolutely disgusting.
Of course there's some shyte in all organisations of all types but it'll be no surprise that things tend to go a bit askew when you cut funding by that amount and pile on the work.