Off Topic: Here's one for you, whats your thoughts....

MichaelDebeve

MichaelDebeve

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Went to pick the young'un up from school yesterday (5yr old).

Teacher asked is she could have a word, and she went on to say that my son is often shouting out "boys are the best" "yeh boys win" "girls are rubbish" etc etc during games or tasks in class.

I know why straight off, as at home me and him often try and beat his mam and sister at games etc and we lay it on pretty thick celebrating afterwards!

The teacher pulls me up and says its not appropriate for him to be singling out girls as 'rubbish' etc and wouldnt I rather he wasnt brought up without a girl/ boy divide.

My wife has said "well I suppose she is right nowadays ...."

However, I pretty much bit my tongue off yesterday not telling the teacher she was pathetic, but now I've been bubbling all night regretting that I didnt tell her she was being ridiculous.

I see it as absolute harmless fun, in every classroom up and down the country for years ....but now I think I have to pull my 5 year old up and tell him to stop it. Which I think is ridiculous, and he will think he has done something wrong which I dont think he has at all.

Anyway - whats your thoughts :unsure:
 
MichaelDebeve said:
Went to pick the young'un up from school yesterday (5yr old).

Teacher asked is she could have a word, and she went on to say that my son is often shouting out "boys are the best" "yeh boys win" "girls are rubbish" etc etc during games or tasks in class.

I know why straight off, as at home me and him often try and beat his mam and sister at games etc and we lay it on pretty thick celebrating afterwards!

The teacher pulls me up and says its not appropriate for him to be singling out girls as 'rubbish' etc and wouldnt I rather he wasnt brought up without a girl/ boy divide.

My wife has said "well I suppose she is right nowadays ...."

However, I pretty much bit my tongue off yesterday not telling the teacher she was pathetic, but now I've been bubbling all night regretting that I didnt tell her she was being ridiculous.

I see it as absolute harmless fun, in every classroom up and down the country for years ....but now I think I have to pull my 5 year old up and tell him to stop it. Which I think is ridiculous, and he will think he has done something wrong which I dont think he has at all.

Anyway - whats your thoughts :unsure:
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I suppose the danger these days is that if he persuades the girls that boys are better they they might all choose to become boys. This in turn could cause a future population crisis and long term lead to an existential threat to the world. The teacher’s just trying to save the world, not all heroes wear capes!
 
We don't have a boy/girl divide in our house but our girls still only want to play with girls at school/nursery so whatever you do at home they will still segregate themselves at school anyway and I know kids that are an only child that do it as well. Even though there is a lot more inclusivity these days etc kids are still drawn to certain things. I know from seeing the kids at parties and school dressing up days that the boys all wear superhero stuff and the girls all wear princess stuff so they get split based on just the things they like.

It's probably more that he has been told to stop and hasn't rather than what he has said specifically. If you want him to stop with the boys are the best/girls are rubbish language then just give yourself team names at home instead of the boys and the girls teams.
 
Nano said:
We don't have a boy/girl divide in our house but our girls still only want to play with girls at school/nursery so whatever you do at home they will still segregate themselves at school anyway and I know kids that are an only child that do it as well. Even though there is a lot more inclusivity these days etc kids are still drawn to certain things. I know from seeing the kids at parties and school dressing up days that the boys all wear superhero stuff and the girls all wear princess stuff so they get split based on just the things they like.

It's probably more that he has been told to stop and hasn't rather than what he has said specifically. If you want him to stop with the boys are the best/girls are rubbish language then just give yourself team names at home instead of the boys and the girls teams.
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In my defence the girls in our house are rubbish 👀
 
I suppose it depends whether he understands that you are only doing it in the context of the game or whether there is a general sense that boys rule in the house.

For example how are household jobs structured? Does dad sit with feet up whilst Mum runs about cooking and cleaning?

If the latter then he might be being set up for a lifetime of difficult relationships.
 
MichaelDebeve said:
Went to pick the young'un up from school yesterday (5yr old).

Teacher asked is she could have a word, and she went on to say that my son is often shouting out "boys are the best" "yeh boys win" "girls are rubbish" etc etc during games or tasks in class.

I know why straight off, as at home me and him often try and beat his mam and sister at games etc and we lay it on pretty thick celebrating afterwards!

The teacher pulls me up and says its not appropriate for him to be singling out girls as 'rubbish' etc and wouldnt I rather he wasnt brought up without a girl/ boy divide.

My wife has said "well I suppose she is right nowadays ...."

However, I pretty much bit my tongue off yesterday not telling the teacher she was pathetic, but now I've been bubbling all night regretting that I didnt tell her she was being ridiculous.

I see it as absolute harmless fun, in every classroom up and down the country for years ....but now I think I have to pull my 5 year old up and tell him to stop it. Which I think is ridiculous, and he will think he has done something wrong which I dont think he has at all.

Anyway - whats your thoughts :unsure:
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Colgates_shaving_foam said:
For example how are household jobs structured? Does dad sit with feet up whilst Mum runs about cooking and cleaning?
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Dad fcucking wishes!

I would say equal, both work FT, on an evening we alternate food prep with sorting kids. Weekends just a free for all of chaos in all honesty.

It is purely during 'play time' and only if he is on teams with me - as other times he will be playing with his sis or his mam etc and nothing.
 
MichaelDebeve said:
Teacher asked is she could have a word, and she went on to say that my son is often shouting out "boys are the best" "yeh boys win" "girls are rubbish" etc etc during games or tasks in class.

The teacher pulls me up and says its not appropriate for him to be singling out girls as 'rubbish' etc and wouldnt I rather he wasnt brought up without a girl/ boy divide.

My wife has said "well I suppose she is right nowadays ...."

However, I pretty much bit my tongue off yesterday not telling the teacher she was pathetic, but now I've been bubbling all night regretting that I didnt tell her she was being ridiculous.
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That's not really appropriate language for a classroom. Teachers need to promote positivity and inclusivity, and the teacher here needed to address the problem before it grows.

Teachers have a hard enough job with the kids, without getting bawled out by parents who think their child is a special case and can go to class and shout derogatory comments at other kids.

She's not being ridiculous, your son needs to learn what is appropriate behaviour, and you need to reinforce those values.
 
Way_Out_West said:
That's not really appropriate language for a classroom. Teachers need to promote positivity and inclusivity, and the teacher here needed to address the problem before it grows.

Teachers have a hard enough job with the kids, without getting bawled out by parents who think their child is a special case and can go to class and shout derogatory comments at other kids.

She's not being ridiculous, your son needs to learn what is appropriate behaviour, and you need to reinforce those values.
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Noted.

Just for the record the teacher wasnt bawled out - I didnt say anything, I listened and went home and discussed it with the wife on what to do.

100mph response that one 💥
 
I think the teacher is right to be honest.

I know it might seem like harmless fun between you and your family and it most likely is, but when there is stuff in the news about sexual assault, misogyny etc we often hear from women that things need to be rooted out from an early age if we expect things to change.

I suppose the teacher is attempting to do that with this. It might seem small, but at least they are doing something.

Just my view.
 
All good stuff this, cheers

It is one of the reasons why I asked ...and why I didn't react when the teacher spoke to me and went home to speak with the wife.

I asked her do I lay it on thick, go beyond fun.... she didn't think so, but its obviously registering too much with my son!

I think 'dad' needs to rethink his celebrations next time we play Bluey Bingo!
 
MichaelDebeve said:
Went to pick the young'un up from school yesterday (5yr old).

Teacher asked is she could have a word, and she went on to say that my son is often shouting out "boys are the best" "yeh boys win" "girls are rubbish" etc etc during games or tasks in class.

I know why straight off, as at home me and him often try and beat his mam and sister at games etc and we lay it on pretty thick celebrating afterwards!

The teacher pulls me up and says its not appropriate for him to be singling out girls as 'rubbish' etc and wouldnt I rather he wasnt brought up without a girl/ boy divide.

My wife has said "well I suppose she is right nowadays ...."

However, I pretty much bit my tongue off yesterday not telling the teacher she was pathetic, but now I've been bubbling all night regretting that I didnt tell her she was being ridiculous.

I see it as absolute harmless fun, in every classroom up and down the country for years ....but now I think I have to pull my 5 year old up and tell him to stop it. Which I think is ridiculous, and he will think he has done something wrong which I dont think he has at all.

Anyway - whats your thoughts :unsure:
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Personally I don't see anything wrong with this and is something that children have always said and in competition there is an element of friction, if there wasn't what's the point in having winners and losers.

To me it shows how mental the world has gone to even speak to you like it is a divide as I am pretty sure there are many girls who will beat your young man at a few things too.

We as a society really need to look at what we are publishing, from gender, race, religion,what ever people want to bring to the table or are offended by IMO we are all human beings and that is what collectively makes us equal there shouldnt be any segregation and anyone who solicits driving an individual area into the public eye is masking there own issues and trying to get alignment but in all honesty does anyone really care, live life your way to the best of your ability, be kind and humble but remember we will not all see eye to eye but that's OK.
 
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