Notice periods...

Wilf said:
do what those with their names on their office doors do (managers & bosses) - go and see a doc, explain your stress and remove yourself from the workplace on full sick pay.

an unhappy aggrieved worker can be a dangerous worker, to themselves and to others.
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Was going to say the same Wilf. You would be amazed how many people working offshore but directly for Oil Companies like BP, Shell, Apache suddenly develop stress in the weeks /months coming up to their retirement.
 
SmallTown said:
Companies don't give references anymore do they? Most I have worked with just verify a person worked there
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Yes they do. As a manager I received and wrote several, larger companies handle them through HR. My current role was hold up while it was confirmed they could take my reference provided by a firm which no longer exists. Fairly common practice to ask for references. They do have to be factual but brewing contract would be factual
 
References arent worth the paper they are written on. Yes the can confirm the length of service and date of leaving and that is enough. They should quote salary on leaving, but rarely do.
If you performed poorly, then the company wouldn't say that, as they probably want you to leave their employment. Equally if you were a star performer, they would want to keep you, so some unscrupulous employers could give you a poor reference so you didnt get the next job and the could retain you.
 
I’ve provided a number of references for people in recent years and also withdrawn an offer of employment to someone on the basis of a (very) poor reference from their previous employer. You have to provide factual information which is relevant to their employment, but a satisfactory reference is still a quite common prerequisite for a job offer.

If someone had refused to work their contractual notice period I would absolutely mention that on any reference I was asked to provide. It is completely relevant to their appropriateness and attitude in terms of their employment.
 
My new company were happy to wait .. I was also accepting of the fact...

I asked if they would be willing to reduce my period and they seemed to lose the ability to talk... I needed a date so pushed my supervisor who gave me one I was happy with only to be told the big boss wasn’t happy...

I don’t honestly think it’s down to business requirement but because they have poor man management skills..

my new job is similar but not direct competitors...

there have been other issues that have soured my taste about working here but I’d been happy up until they happened and wouldn’t have looked for another job if they hadn’t...

gotta go in for a chat tomorrow so see how it goes...
 
References expose the referee to the risk of legal action. Many big companies play safe for this reason, confirming dates of employment, position held and little more. They often accompany this with a standard HR statement on the lines of ' It is not company policy to give personal references...' to cover themselves for accusations of disadvantaging those they only provide a basic reference for.
 
SmallTown said:
Companies don't give references anymore do they? Most I have worked with just verify a person worked there
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I'm not surprised when I read that. You do know what that kind of reference means don't you. ?

I'll explain - For legal reasons companies can't give a bad reference or they risk being sued. It means the person was useless and we were glad to see the back of 'em
or possibly - "yes he turned up but did nowt"

HR departments have a whole coded message book which they share.
 
At interviews I knew a boss that when an HR person was present he had a code where he would turn his pen in a certain direction which meant wrap it up and don't give the company tour when leaving.
 
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