Newcastle v Arsenal

Just watched the highlights on Sky and that is an absolute disgrace.
That ball is out as shown on the VAR review.
That is a foul as shown by the two hands in the back of the defender, again it's clear on the VAR review.
As for the offside, it should be academic as the previous two incidents should have ruled the goal out.
 
Just watched the replay, the only one that was conclusive out of the 3 errors was the foul.

It’s only offside if joelington touches the ball, and the ball looked in on the basis the whole ball has to cross the line, you can see a gap on some occasions
 
All this, well maybe the circumference of the shadow of the ball is maybe half a millimetre over the line, or if we freeze frame here and take 5 minutes to see if a player who didn't even touch the ball is possibly one inch offside, is what is completely ruining football at the top level.
It's a sport, not a mathematical equation.
How much of this nonsense and controversy do we get in the Championship, where we don't have V*R? About 10% maybe, if that. It's so obvious that football is so much better without it.
 
Have no referees been looked in to?

It feels a bit like one of those hiding in plain sight things.. when it all comes out it will be obvious.

You can’t be that consistently bad in a field where you are supposedly trained not to be.. and there’s multiples of you checking.

Championship officials are horrifically bad.. deliberately so it feels.. but these premier league decisions.. they need looking into.

How does the richest club in the world get these amazingly obvious decisions go in their favour.. these multi million pound games..
 
This one? @Zoophonic. It’s not conclusive as per the World Cup and Japan, the whole ball is not guaranteed to be out despite the gap you can see

The ball is spherical and can therefore over hang. Same principle apply to goal like tech

I get that, but they aren’t playing with beachballs. A normal sized football doesn’t actually have that much of an overhang if the ball is on the ground. I guess that’s an argument for that image - it can’t be seen for certain, that the ball is actually on the ground. Obviously if it’s in the air, it changes the whole image and the overhang could indeed be a factor. Either way, it’s mental that we are even having to have this discussion about what was the premium match in the ‘best league in the world tm’ yesterday.
Just do away with VAR and go back to the game that wasn’t actually broken. Everyone would moan about the odd ref decision but there was still generally an acceptance they are human and make errors. Now we have the worst of all worlds. MOTD and other shows seem to spend more time discussing VAR errors than they ever did on ref errors.
VAR is ruining the game for me. I don’t particularly care if every single decision is correct to within the nearest mm.
 
Have no referees been looked in to?

It feels a bit like one of those hiding in plain sight things.. when it all comes out it will be obvious.

You can’t be that consistently bad in a field where you are supposedly trained not to be.. and there’s multiples of you checking.

Championship officials are horrifically bad.. deliberately so it feels.. but these premier league decisions.. they need looking into.

How does the richest club in the world get these amazingly obvious decisions go in their favour.. these multi million pound games..
Ball out inconclusive
Offside inconclusive

I guess the foul has to fall under clear and obvious

It’s not the conspiracy everyone is trying to portray
 
Another great nonsense of football in its current guise is that every single poster on this thread knows that if Joelinton had been contesting the ball with the Arsenal ‘keeper and placed his hands on him then VAR would’ve ruled out the goal within seconds.
 
Actually it’s not even about only the goal is it. How is the VAR not sending off Bruno at least twice? What’s the justification for watching someone elbow someone in the head, barging into someone’s back? We had Dan Burn just take Saka out twice with absolutely no intention of playing the ball. He wasn’t booked. The Newcastle players must’ve surrounded the referee at least five times during that game - what happened to the rules about that that we saw at the start of the season? Why have those things been slowly abandoned?
 
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