Nadine Dorries

Sisyphus said:
Maybe, but would you have said, ‘Boris, he’s the man I hate most in politics’? If so, then apologies.
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Nah, I wouldn't, as Boris is bad enough to beat just about everyone, regardless of gender, so what I post reflects that he's just about worse than everyone. Boris is like a Champions League winning level pr*ck, those two are Europa league level by comparison.

As a whole the competence of the Labour females is very good, better than a lot of the Labour males, Tory Females and certainly Tory blokes.
I sort of expect more competence from the women, as they're more realistic, mature and competent from what I've seen, but those two certainly aren't. Like I said, May is far better (for a Tory, of any gender), but her viewpoints are a minority, even in her own party it seems.
 
Nobby_Barnes said:
An open exchange of ideas ? like this you mean ??

'Shes absolute scum'

'Dorries is a horrible human being'

'she embodies pure vile ugly nasty uncaring dishonest duplicitous hate filled arrogant deceitful self serving dark evil'

'A good old fashioned stoning perhaps for Mad Nad'

Hatred and extreme views I call it.....👎 Shocking tbh
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The views on her and her party aren't exactly extreme, it's more mainstream I would say, she's a nasty piece of work who is clearly incompetent, and possibly drunk. Her party is built on being extreme, and hatred towards others. It's only fair that the mainstream hate those filled with such hatred which is far worse, I'd be surprised if they were not hated.

The "stoning" was clearly a joke from @Muttley, I don't expect he would be out in the street throwing stones at her.

Loads have been saying the same things about, JRM, BJ, Farage etc, but none of it on here is anywhere near as bad as the stuff FRNJ's actually come out with (which is extreme), and even put into practice (like yesterday).
 
Andy_W said:
Nah, I wouldn't, as Boris is bad enough to beat just about everyone, regardless of gender, so what I post reflects that he's just about worse than everyone. Boris is like a Champions League winning level pr*ck, those two are Europa league level by comparison.

As a whole the competence of the Labour females is very good, better than a lot of the Labour males, Tory Females and certainly Tory blokes.
I sort of expect more competence from the women, as they're more realistic, mature and competent from what I've seen, but those two certainly aren't. Like I said, May is far better (for a Tory, of any gender), but her viewpoints are a minority, even in her own party it seems.
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Women would appear to be in more positions of power and influence than ever before across the entire world (mayors,civic leaders.political leaders,company directors/CEO etc ,education,presidents,prime ministers,all media platform,new and old,arts - film etc etc).

Objectively -Does the world seem better to you?
 
I think one of the problems the government representatives (of both genders) have is that they have to defend positions that they probably don't want to (for various reasons) and resort to lying or bluster.

This current group of Ministers is largely in position due to their loyalty to the cult of Brexit, even if they don't necessarily understand it (Dorries didn't understand what a Customs Union entailed, for example).

They're a reflection of the PM, who is easily the worst we've ever had.
 
SNOWBANDIT said:
Women would appear to be in more positions of power and influence than ever before across the entire world (mayors,civic leaders.political leaders,company directors/CEO etc ,education,presidents,prime ministers,all media platform,new and old,arts - film etc etc).

Objectively -Does the world seem better to you?
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Well I wasn't around 50 years ago, but yeah, I would say it is far, far better than 50 years ago or whatever. But that's not just down to women being given better roles, it's the same for minorities too.

There still isn't parity mind, for gender, race or anything else, we and the world is still decades away from that, regrettably, but it will come.

Not saying the world doesn't have it's problems now mind, as it has loads, but they're certainly not largely women's "fault".
 
SNOWBANDIT said:
Women would appear to be in more positions of power and influence than ever before across the entire world (mayors,civic leaders.political leaders,company directors/CEO etc ,education,presidents,prime ministers,all media platform,new and old,arts - film etc etc).

Objectively -Does the world seem better to you?
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Playing devils advocate, they are not in power as world leaders where it really matters the G7 + Russia, China, India are all male. I can offset Ursula at the EU as she attends the G7 meetings.

I think we need more women in power to balance the egotistical males. Generally speaking I think women are often far more practical, balanced, pragmatic in their decision making and know when to be compliant and when to be ruthless, well thats what our lass has suggested I say anyway.
 
SNOWBANDIT said:
Women would appear to be in more positions of power and influence than ever before across the entire world (mayors,civic leaders.political leaders,company directors/CEO etc ,education,presidents,prime ministers,all media platform,new and old,arts - film etc etc).

Objectively -Does the world seem better to you?
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I don’t think objective assessments are possible here. In addition, a single leader (Putin, Trump, BJ) is able to completely erase the good engendered by female leaders.
What is indisputable is that the many of theirs countries that have elected female leaders do pursue desirable environmental and social policies (Denmark, Norway, Finland, New Zealand).
 
Sisyphus said:
I don’t think objective assessments are possible here. In addition, a single leader (Putin, Trump, BJ) is able to completely erase the good engendered by female leaders.
What is indisputable is that the many of theirs countries that have elected female leaders do pursue desirable environmental and social policies (Denmark, Norway, Finland, New Zealand).
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Progressive are the Scandies (although Swedish PM has only been in situ less than 3 months). As for Jacinda well NZ were the first country in the world to give women the vote - and elect a woman to Parliament.
 
Andy_W said:
Nah, I wouldn't, as Boris is bad enough to beat just about everyone, regardless of gender, so what I post reflects that he's just about worse than everyone. Boris is like a Champions League winning level pr*ck, those two are Europa league level by comparison.

As a whole the competence of the Labour females is very good, better than a lot of the Labour males, Tory Females and certainly Tory blokes.
I sort of expect more competence from the women, as they're more realistic, mature and competent from what I've seen, but those two certainly aren't. Like I said, May is far better (for a Tory, of any gender), but her viewpoints are a minority, even in her own party it seems.
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Spot on. Tbh I'd have preffered either Raynor or Jess Phillips in the chair but Starmer has grown into it.
I'd like to see Phillips more high profile.
I'm probably guilty of generalising but my perception is that male MPs tend to be more greedy, more self interested and more likely to be mired in sleaze. Personaly I'd trust the women more.
 
zzzzz said:
Spot on. Tbh I'd have preffered either Raynor or Jess Phillips in the chair but Starmer has grown into it.
I'd like to see Phillips more high profile.
I'm probably guilty of generalising but my perception is that male MPs tend to be more greedy, more self interested and more likely to be mired in sleaze. Personaly I'd trust the women more.
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I like Starmer, they've got nothing on him. BJ is trying to **** on him, but the wind is just blowing it straight back into his face.

Raynor and Phillips have key parts to play, and they'll get some big chances to show what they're made of if Labour can get through the next GE, looking forward to it.
 
Zoophonic said:
Progressive are the Scandies (although Swedish PM has only been in situ less than 3 months). As for Jacinda well NZ were the first country in the world to give women the vote - and elect a woman to Parliament.
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She's also made her country an authoritarian police state, hence the reason her popularity has plummeted and there are currently thousands of protesters outside their Parliament building.
 
magic said:
She's also made her country an authoritarian police state, hence the reason her popularity has plummeted and there are currently thousands of protesters outside their Parliament building.
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Let me put you right on a couple of inaccuracies there on your observations on our country.

Not "plummeted" Her popularity has fallen yes but she is still comfortably seen as the best of the politicians as leader. If there was an election tomorrow Labour would still get an overall majority. Not bad for a country that has had a lot of frustration in being cut off from the rest of the world for over 6 months in terms of travel.

In terms of "thousands" demonstrating. They are mostly anti vaxers and we know what we think about them. When you say thousands there was probably no more than a thousand anti vaccination and pro freedom marchers blocking the streets. Bunch of idiots most of them.

We are no more a "police state" as you are in UK with the police protecting a corrupt junta. Her COVID policy has always been to protect our small health system. We have a huge Pacifica population who were always more vulnerable to COVID. The country has rallied around to help all its population. We have had less than 55 deaths in total due to COVID. Hospitals have been able to get on with dealing with others inc my aunt who is having treatment for cancer. She didn't have to wait a day. We were slow to get going with our vaccination programme but we are a small country will just 5m population. We didn't have the buying power of a Johnson Government buying 150m vaccinations - but we are now comfortably ahead of the UK in terms of percentage of population vaccinated.

Your snide comments on NZ are misguided at best
 
No problem, if you’re happy with creating a two tier society and the withholding of certain privileges and freedoms based on acceptance of a supposedly voluntary medical procedure in a so called democracy then fair enough, you’ve got to live there.
 
magic said:
No problem, if you’re happy with creating a two tier society and the withholding of certain privileges and freedoms based on acceptance of a supposedly voluntary medical procedure in a so called democracy then fair enough, you’ve got to live there.
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Don't get the jab forfeit your right to mingle freely.
Should be a universal policy IMO
 
magic said:
No problem, if you’re happy with creating a two tier society and the withholding of certain privileges and freedoms based on acceptance of a supposedly voluntary medical procedure in a so called democracy then fair enough, you’ve got to live there.
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I see you're back with your anti-vax guff.
 
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