Muniz finally getting game time at Fulham

Happy for him. You wait a long, long time (and usually for an injury) for a chance in the Premier League as a backup striker and 4 goals in 5 for a goal-shy team, he’s proving he can hack it at that level.

Gosh the pressure must be immense to perform if you’re someone like Muniz at Fulham, when you think about the difference it could make to your career in the future.

If he plays like that until Jimenez comes back then there will always be a PL team who will take a chance on someone who has proven they can score goals at that level, with the pay packet it comes with. On the other hand, if you don’t get any time on the pitch and failed in your Championship loans… Greek league or Eredevise for £7k a week?

Shows how much luck is a factor as well as ability. I always remember Harry Kane getting his first run at Spurs because literally everyone else was injured and he couldn’t get dropped because he just kept scoring goals. He wasn’t very highly rated and had been shunted out on loan all over the place. A few unlucky deflections or Soldado / Adebayor’s knees being a bit less dodgy and his career could have turned out completely differently.
 
jonny_greenings_sock said:
Happy for him. You wait a long, long time (and usually for an injury) for a chance in the Premier League as a backup striker and 4 goals in 5 for a goal-shy team, he’s proving he can hack it at that level.

Gosh the pressure must be immense to perform if you’re someone like Muniz at Fulham, when you think about the difference it could make to your career in the future.

If he plays like that until Jimenez comes back then there will always be a PL team who will take a chance on someone who has proven they can score goals at that level, with the pay packet it comes with. On the other hand, if you don’t get any time on the pitch and failed in your Championship loans… Greek league or Eredevise for £7k a week?

Shows how much luck is a factor as well as ability. I always remember Harry Kane getting his first run at Spurs because literally everyone else was injured and he couldn’t get dropped because he just kept scoring goals. He wasn’t very highly rated and had been shunted out on loan all over the place. A few unlucky deflections or Soldado / Adebayor’s knees being a bit less dodgy and his career could have turned out completely differently.
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Good point about a Kane. Even after breaking into the team the rumours were that Spurs were still open to him moving on, but a significant amount of fan pressure probably influenced the club on that.
 
newyddion said:
We turned down the opportunity to sign Muniz.. the January we brought in Bolasie, Kebano & Mendez Laing in on loan.

Toyosi Olusanya was out alternative I believe.

We also turned down the opportunity to sign Jamie Paterson on a free (injury concerns) preferring Sammy Ameobi

We missed out on Keiffer Moore and opted for Uche Ikpeazu.. and preferred Martin Payero to Pelly Ruddock Mpanzu

funny how things work out..
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Only some of this is true ;) We wanted Muniz a year before Fulham signed him but he was too expensive... Fulham signed him for £8 million.

We had a bid accepted for Moore in 2020 - but he chose to join Cardiff - Cardiff were rumored to have doubled his 5k Wigan wages to 10k - Maybe we didn't offer him that.

We signed Big Uche a year later for 800k, so I don't think we opted for Uche over Moore. Akpom was the striker we signed in 2020.

Mpanzu used us (and other clubs) as leverage to get a better deal at Luton... He was never going to sign.

.... You're right about Paterson though 😂
 
B_G said:
Don't forget we could only name 5 loans in matchday squad which was keeping Muniz out the squad.

Steffan
Archer
Mowatt
Giles
Ramsey (when fit)
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Thats the kicker - he hadnt warranted a place ahead of any of those loanees.

He started getting a place on the bench when Ramsey was injured from memory.

Fair play to him now, but at the time Carrick made all the right decisions in that department.
 
Jonny Ingbar said:
Good point about a Kane. Even after breaking into the team the rumours were that Spurs were still open to him moving on, but a significant amount of fan pressure probably influenced the club on that.
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Yep, I remember it.

You'd think talent like that would always rise to the top no matter what but honestly I think the margins are so fine and the role of luck is so high in players getting their break at the right club at the right time, which can fuel their development and completely change the arc of their career. Sliding doors moments everywhere.

Baby Kane wasn't like Rooney who was the best player in the Everton team at 16 and a guaranteed superstar. He didn't seem to have loads to his game other than suddenly looking like an incredible finisher, which he hadn't at Leicester or his other loans, and couldn't stop scoring from day 1 for his boyhood club while everyone else was injured so kept his place. All the rest came later. He was also being managed by Tim Sherwood who was struggling, and needed to keep the fans onside so having a local kid in the team was a good look.

I remember Shearer after about 10 games on MOTD highlighting his goalscoring and saying something like, "I know strikers and this kid is special", but it came out of nowhere and he was 22, not that young.

Imagine he doesn't score in his first two games because of deflections and they bring in a Negredo on loan.
 
Norwich had a 19 year old harry kane on loan. He played 5 times and didn't score and picked up an early injury. He went back to spurs in January and was replaced by a loan signing from the US. Kei Kamara. Ouch.
Also on the fringes of the Norwich squad were Howson, Ayala and Jacob Butterfield.
 
Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret said:
Norwich had a 19 year old harry kane on loan. He played 5 times and didn't score and picked up an early injury. He went back to spurs in January and was replaced by a loan signing from the US. Kei Kamara. Ouch.
Also on the fringes of the Norwich squad were Howson, Ayala and Jacob Butterfield.
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Howson played regularly throughout his time at Norwich when fit, he wasn’t a fringe player.
 
jonny_greenings_sock said:
Shows how much luck is a factor as well as ability. I always remember Harry Kane getting his first run at Spurs because literally everyone else was injured and he couldn’t get dropped because he just kept scoring goals. He wasn’t very highly rated and had been shunted out on loan all over the place. A few unlucky deflections or Soldado / Adebayor’s knees being a bit less dodgy and his career could have turned out completely differently.
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Remember saying he was a one season wonder. Then saying it again every season since then.:eek::unsure:
 
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