MSS history?

spanishman

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I lived in London from 1977 to 2004. In that time I never got involved in Middlesbrough Supporters South.

As an outsider I would be interested in reading a potted history of MSS. Is there anyone on here who can tell me about it?

I am interested in what I might have missed out on.
 
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Same, lots of fond memories of watching boro in London. Never actually got involved per se other than turning up at the designated pub to watch the match.
Same. Also used them for travel to games to start with but then that stopped (games being moved for TV killed it I think).

Magazine was excellent as well for Boro news in the days before the internet.
 
I used to travel with them from 88 to 96, Geoff Vickers used to be one of the main faces, they were brilliant for getting cheap train tickets and actual tickets for the away ends from about 90 onwards, I went with them to Anfield in 88 and they had got their own tickets for the main stand there was about 20 of us in there but relations with the club became closer and no matter the match they could always get tickets for the away ends. They had darts teams, football teams and pools teams
They would organise a big social event around one of the London matches which h used to be a pub near London Bridge and they had Boro players come along on several occasions, and because it was before the days of everyone recording everything it would get messy, as people would let their hair down, there is some stories out there, one year Gary Gills crutches had an eventful time.

* just checked my dates and I'm not sure whether it was Gary Gill, but there was two Boro players came and the other one may have been Gary Parkinson.
 
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I joined in 1987 when working near London - went on a few away trips and the home Leicester game in May 1988 - they could get cheap group rate travel on British Rail which was a big discount then. In 1987/8 there were about 60 members, it had just re formed after no club in the mid 1980s. I think I stayed a member when I moved back up North in 1988, but it was more for the magazine.

I remember an away game to Brum in 1987 when the club director with the stationery business came with us. The photographer Paul Thompson came on trips too before he became famous. I still see Roy Chatto at games he must be mid 80s now and was a an oldish member in 1987. I noticed to used to book an area of the Star and Garter on Southfield Road for their lunches when it was still open. Geoff Vickers was a good organiser - I think he was a Lloyds Bank Manager.

The Magazine became a professional publication, better than most of the stuff in WH Smith. I did go to annual do in North London when Mclaren was boss and there must have been nearly 300 people at the do. The do's were after a game in London so the players dropped in, with the team coach parked outside. It was rumoured at one point that MSS was the biggest London based supporters Club, so many Teessiders were going to London to work in the 1990s/2000s.
 
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Geoff was at Lloyds. One of my old bosses in London had previously worked with him there.

The introduction of the mailing list by Tim helped people stay in contact and I went to one of the Christmas dinners (I think - it might have just been a drink session) at the Star & Garter.

MSS changed a lot as most things do in general with football, with the old guard falling away and younger people taking their place in terms of organising things.

Probably peak MSS recently was in the mid 2010s when they had all the football, pool teams etc and could easily fill a bar with fans to watch a nondescript otherwise Championship match.
 
Geoff was at Lloyds. One of my old bosses in London had previously worked with him there.

The introduction of the mailing list by Tim helped people stay in contact and I went to one of the Christmas dinners (I think - it might have just been a drink session) at the Star & Garter.

MSS changed a lot as most things do in general with football, with the old guard falling away and younger people taking their place in terms of organising things.

Probably peak MSS recently was in the mid 2010s when they had all the football, pool teams etc and could easily fill a bar with fans to watch a nondescript otherwise Championship match.
I was actually at the man city fa cup game at the Etihad in 2015(ish) (bamford, kike, tomlin turn) but was actually jealous of a couple of pals watching with MSS in, I think, Camden that day.
 
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They had some dodgy moments on their travels, one notable and notorious one was the 92/93 FACup match in Cardiff, I was there but wasn't keen on wandering through that city area in a group, which sometimes could be their undoing, so I headed of behind the station, the pub they picked was already full of Boro but it was the frontline and later it got charged by the Soul Crew. After the match they were talking about it and it was a bit eventful, so much so that when we got Swansea the next year they got taxis from the train station to the mumble's area rather than go into the city centre.
 
I joined in 1987 when working near London - went on a few away trips and the home Leicester game in May 1988 - they could get cheap group rate travel on British Rail which was a big discount then. In 1987/8 there were about 60 members, it had just re formed after no club in the mid 1980s. I think I stayed a member when I moved back up North in 1988, but it was more for the magazine.

I remember an away game to Brum in 1987 when the club director with the stationery business came with us. The photographer Paul Thompson came on trips too before he became famous. I still see Roy Chatto at games he must be mid 80s now and was a an oldish member in 1987. I noticed to used to book an area of the Star and Garter on Southfield Road for their lunches when it was still open. Geoff Vickers was a good organiser - I think he was a Lloyds Bank Manager.

The Magazine became a professional publication, better than most of the stuff in WH Smith. I did go to annual do in North London when Mclaren was boss and there must have been nearly 300 people at the do. The do's were after a game in London so the players dropped in, with the team coach parked outside. It was rumpoured at ome point that MSS was the biggest London based supporters Club, so many Teessiders were going to London to work in the 1990s/2000s.
I might be wrong on this but I think one of the last big events was in Peterborough after we had played there. they managed to get Mogga to show up and speak to everyone.

In terms of the following, there are thousands of us in the vicinity of London. I don't know how MSS are doing now but at one point they had 3 affiliated football teams, plus all the social scene.
 
I went to a lot of events 2014-2017 including a great party the night before the playoff final where they had ex players and bands on at Walkabout by Temple Station and some brilliant boat trips, the Charlton one was the game Karanka had walked out mind, it was a surreal atmosphere. I moved away after that and haven't been down to anything post covid. I think it is new group of people now with Hammersmith being the area they meet for games, always looks well attended on social media.
 
Geoff was at Lloyds. One of my old bosses in London had previously worked with him there.

The introduction of the mailing list by Tim helped people stay in contact and I went to one of the Christmas dinners (I think - it might have just been a drink session) at the Star & Garter.

MSS changed a lot as most things do in general with football, with the old guard falling away and younger people taking their place in terms of organising things.

Probably peak MSS recently was in the mid 2010s when they had all the football, pool teams etc and could easily fill a bar with fans to watch a nondescript otherwise Championship match.
I was helping about a bit in that time and it was super. Played for the footy team when Marlon Beresford played with us and it was run by Lisbon Legend. Amazing times and we won the lot with that team.

I played for and ran the pool team for a bit at Kings cross and it was such good crack. By the time Nuge was chairman around this time the membership was some 2500 and he was responsible for the amazing stuff that has been mentioned above. A great organisation still doing good things today. It was its 40th birthday last year - I still have the annual birthday in my calendar for some reason 😆
 
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