Mike Phelan to join Rooney's Plymouth as Assistant Manager

Humpty said:
This would've been my preferred move over Graham Carrick. A little bit of experience would've/could've made all the difference this season.
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Went to a coaching course that he ran a few months back. Spoke very well and had some good ideas. However he came across as very old school in his approach to the way football should be played. Don't think his and Carrick's style would have been a good fit
 
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anth25 said:
Went to a coaching course that he ran a few months back. Spoke very well and had some good ides. However he came across as very old school in his approach to the way football should be played. Don't think his and Carrick's style would have been a good fit
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Personally i think that's exactly why he should've been brought in. It's good to have alternative perspective's. Too many yes men is a bad thing.
 
BoroMart said:
Of course yes men are not healthy, but neither is opposing philosophy. We need someone to offer alternative views on micro-decisions while buying into the greater macro-direction and philosophy.
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This is the Mike Phelen that was assistant to Sir Alex Ferguson, the manager of one of the most fluid attacking teams of the modern era. I'm sure there'd be some common philosophical ground.
 
Humpty said:
I didn't like that we brought in an Under 18's coach with no experience to replace a first team coach with bags of experience.
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Graeme has 20 years experience coaching both at Newcastle and with England youth (15 years). Danks had 2 years at Villa and prior to that was England U21's assistant also. Yes some 1st team experience but only 2 years more. We don't seem to be slacking under the Carrick's guidance.
 
Smoggyonthesolent said:
Graeme has 20 years experience coaching both at Newcastle and with England youth (15 years). Danks had 2 years at Villa and prior to that was England U21's assistant also. Yes some 1st team experience but only 2 years more. We don't seem to be slacking under the Carrick's guidance.
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I don't think anything you've said differs from what i said originally apart from your last sentence. Carrick had no experience of senior football prior to coming to us. Danks had been at Anderlecht and Villa.

I believe a more experienced head in the dressing room rather than G.Carrick could've been the difference between us winning automatic promotion this season and finishing in the play offs.
 
Humpty said:
I didn't like that we brought in an Under 18's coach with no experience to replace a first team coach with bags of experience.
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So when Michael Carrick, a coach with no experience, replaced Chris Wilder, a first team coach with bags of experience... you'd have been against that decision too?

Humpty said:
I believe a more experienced head in the dressing room rather than G.Carrick could've been the difference between us winning automatic promotion this season and finishing in the play offs.
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So if we finish in the play offs this season, one of the reasons would be not bringing in Mike Phelan... the guy who had Hull in the relegation zone with 13 losses from 24 games in charge?
 
I think having someone with Phelan's experience can only be beneficial providing the main man be it Rooney or Carrick don't feel undermined.

I think it's a good move for Rooney who obviously knows him very well and I'm sure roles and boundaries will have been discussed. Equally we could have done the same with Carrick.
 
B_G said:
I think having someone with Phelan's experience can only be beneficial providing the main man be it Rooney or Carrick don't feel undermined.

I think it's a good move for Rooney who obviously knows him very well and I'm sure roles and boundaries will have been discussed. Equally we could have done the same with Carrick.
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I agree it's a good move for Rooney and Plymouth given where they are in the table and how their results are going... he might have the character to steady the ship and save them from relegation...

... but for a team who are hoping for promotion? - I think a Phelan type would be a massive step backwards for Boro.
 
Ash88 said:
So when Michael Carrick, a coach with no experience, replaced Chris Wilder, a first team coach with bags of experience... you'd have been against that decision too?



So if we finish in the play offs this season, one of the reasons would be not bringing in Mike Phelan... the guy who had Hull in the relegation zone with 13 losses from 24 games in charge?
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I mean if you want to compare two completely different roles then be my guest but don’t expect to make a valid point by doing so because it’s completely irrelevant.
 
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