Maddo post match

Rofesleg said:
Leo gave Hackney his chance. He'd already played 5 games when Carrick arrived and was playing well. He had no reason to drop him.
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He did and credit to him, but I know the academy had been pushing strongly for Hackney to be given some games when Wilder was here.

Inside the club it was felt he was more than ready, it's just that Wilder didnt agree.
 
r00fie1 said:
He played last week and scored. I appreciate your point about his fitness. We get fed a continuous monologue about players not being ready, or “injured”, or the dogs chewed their boots......Finch was given a chance under Leo [!] at the same time as Hackney. Admittedly, different players at different times and Sonny is younger, but won't this young man start questioning whether he's going to get his chance?

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Along with McCabe, Hannah, Bridge, Woolston, Gibson and a few others, they are miles better than Greenwood, Ayling, OBrien and Thomas. Obviously, you wouldn't put them all on together and expect them to perform, but they need feeding in over the remaining games, so we don't have riff-raff from other clubs cluttering the dressing room next season. Sooner have inexperienced winners than experienced losers.

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Sorry roofie1 but there is no way you can be sure that the lads named will be any better than what we have in team atm. If you throw lads in at the wrong time it puts them back in their development.
 
asredastheycome said:
Sorry roofie1 but there is no way you can be sure that the lads named will be any better than what we have in team atm. If you throw lads in at the wrong time it puts them back in their development.
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I know what you mean, and I wouldn't want the young lads to feel like they were chucked in at the deep end and expected to be the instant solution.
I just wonder if more proper game time might give them confidence and do a better job than, say, Thomas or Greenwood. [Even if it's half hour or twenty minutes]?
Carrick says he has a policy of supporting youth development, but so far he's loaned them out or moved them on.
Seen the U21s a few times and there's some damn good players in there.
Jack Hannah stood out for me — brilliant at the back. Solid and a lot better than some of the tripe we've witnessed of late. (y)
Let's hope we have the ammunition to last until the end of the season.
 
Seems fair enough that Finch and Willis are getting match sharp in the U21s for 2-3 games. I would expect to see them next weekend on the bench against QPR.

It does feel though as if Carrick is really averse to actually playing a U21. Admittedly unlike Hackney last season, we don't have anyone with more than 2-3 senior games experience to pick from. But we also have had a cluster of players who he simply refuses to play. Kavanagh, Nkrumah, Agyemang, Gilbert, Hoppe and so on. He would literally rather take a couple of 18 year olds to sit on the bench and watch the game than players who could at least offer something. Same with Muniz last season. There were times he could have brought him on but you get the impression that he would have rather played with 10 men instead. It's all a bit odd.
 
Bruce said:
Seems fair enough that Finch and Willis are getting match sharp in the U21s for 2-3 games. I would expect to see them next weekend on the bench against QPR.

It does feel though as if Carrick is really averse to actually playing a U21. Admittedly unlike Hackney last season, we don't have anyone with more than 2-3 senior games experience to pick from. But we also have had a cluster of players who he simply refuses to play. Kavanagh, Nkrumah, Agyemang, Gilbert, Hoppe and so on. He would literally rather take a couple of 18 year olds to sit on the bench and watch the game than players who could at least offer something. Same with Muniz last season. There were times he could have brought him on but you get the impression that he would have rather played with 10 men instead. It's all a bit odd.
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Same Muniz who scored again yesterday snd had an assist.
 
throwing younger players into the current clusterf00k would be catastrophic for them, and some might never recover.
 
I don't agree on not playing youngsters when out of form. They can help turn the form round. Exactly what Hackney did at Wigan last year. We are not lucky enough to be able to only play them when on a 20 game unbeaten run or 4-0 up.

They in no way would do any worse than current first teams so get them in is my opinion.
 
Tbh our lack of.using the academy has been terrible for a few years, hackney only got a chance through luck. Carrick played a couple then binned them off, you can't tell me there is no kids better than ayling, Engle, badpasser and Coburn (granted he's a kid)
 
Bruce said:
Seems fair enough that Finch and Willis are getting match sharp in the U21s for 2-3 games. I would expect to see them next weekend on the bench against QPR.

It does feel though as if Carrick is really averse to actually playing a U21. Admittedly unlike Hackney last season, we don't have anyone with more than 2-3 senior games experience to pick from. But we also have had a cluster of players who he simply refuses to play. Kavanagh, Nkrumah, Agyemang, Gilbert, Hoppe and so on. He would literally rather take a couple of 18 year olds to sit on the bench and watch the game than players who could at least offer something. Same with Muniz last season. There were times he could have brought him on but you get the impression that he would have rather played with 10 men instead. It's all a bit odd.
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Would you have left Akpom out for Muniz?
 
I agree some of the kids should be given a chance, but the flip side is when the mood is dark and storm clouds gathering amongst the fans they will get absolute pelters for mis placing a pass, or failing to control a ball whizzed at them neck high.

It's a fine balance between giving them game time and having their confidence wrecked by numpty fans getting on their backs.

I advocated trying a few kids just a couple of weeks ago......but the way we are hurtling down the table I'm not sure.

Big picture, why haven't any been given game time consistently - even 10-15-20 mins here and there 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️
 
Corcaigh_the_Cat said:
Would you have left Akpom out for Muniz?
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When he has played for Fulham this season you would see Muniz is not playing in the Akpom role. He is playing more in the Mitrovic role. He is just what we need at the present time. See the goals he was involved in Saturday as a good example. Good finish by Traore for third as well.

 
asredastheycome said:
When he has played for Fulham this season you would see Muniz is not playing in the Akpom role. He is playing more in the Mitrovic role. He is just what we need at the present time. See the goals he was involved in Saturday as a good example. Good finish by Traore for third as well.

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He's not with us at the present time, he was here when the role didn't suit him. It's maybe why he looked so poor and went back to Fulham.
 
Tbf Bilongo didn't go straight in the team, in a struggling side in the National league. He also didn't get loaned out to teams in champ/league 1/league2, so its clearly not the issue that Carrick doesn't rate him whilst everyone else is saying the opposite.
 
Brynn baffles me. Seems to get rave reviews where ever he goes. Now 23? At what point do he deem him good enough to be given a chance?

And as for the full backs - utterly pointless signings, Thomas & Ayling. Dire, the pair of them. If we don't have a kid we could help develop who, currently, would not be as calamitous as those two, we have a bunch of very poor young full backs on our books!
 
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