Maddo constantly criticising Engel
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Laughing
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You are basing this on what? Just opinion or do you have some facts to back up that opinion?
Emmersons_BrazillianDong
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If we want to go up, the defending needs to be better. Engel had a relatively decent game today but we have to get better players if we want to progress.
Aztec chimera
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Based on watching every game this season and listening to every commentary. What isn't in my post that you want to question?
Merlin
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Based on watching him play and seeing how many mistakes he’s made and goals he’s cost us
We need two full backs.
Engel not the answer. Has had enough games to get into his best form and he still regularly gets beaten in one on ones, misplaces key passes, and gets caught out of position.
Does have a good cross and shot in him and may be better with a more competent left midfielder in front of him.
What we need are two 23 year old Luke Aylings, one right footed the other left
Engel not the answer. Has had enough games to get into his best form and he still regularly gets beaten in one on ones, misplaces key passes, and gets caught out of position.
Does have a good cross and shot in him and may be better with a more competent left midfielder in front of him.
What we need are two 23 year old Luke Aylings, one right footed the other left
Aztec chimera
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And yet he is appaling going forward. He can't pass, he can't defend, he invariably passes backwards when in an attacking position. So what is he?
Laughing
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So just opinion then. I wondered if you had some facts, that's all.
The stats suggest you are wrong BTW.
If Engel had a bald head, a beard, and made a few theatrical tackles - he'd have been MOTM today.
Having an opinion of a player after 2-3 games and then just sticking to that opinion throughout the season no matter what is mind blowing.
The only mistake he made today... was losing the ball to Hutchinson... He then out paced him and put in a last ditch block in the box... after Hutchinson left Clarke standing still.
Having an opinion of a player after 2-3 games and then just sticking to that opinion throughout the season no matter what is mind blowing.
The only mistake he made today... was losing the ball to Hutchinson... He then out paced him and put in a last ditch block in the box... after Hutchinson left Clarke standing still.
Johngannonsunderpants
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Isn't it Maddo's job to coment on the game. I would suggest if he says he's misplaced a pass then he's not made it up as he would be easily found out with most of us watching.
Aztec chimera
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Which stats? Didn't realise they were doing stats on maddos opinions now? As for engel, you can show me any stat you want. He's still not going to convince me he is what we need at left back. Not seen enough of bangura but dear God I hope he's better than Engel
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Aztec chimera
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What about watching him over a full season and seeing him constantly beaten by right wingers and misplacing passes. Also getting into attacking positions and his first thought is a backwards pass. I'm not one for slagging off our own players and he puts a shift in every game but if we want to progress, he's not good enough and I'm sorry but that's just a fact
But they weren’t just those type of passes. He played plenty of forward passes. Oh and Ayling’s was 80.3. So comparable.
Merlin
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Yep it is my opinion - the facts are that he makes very basic mistakes repeatedly, like standing off players and allowing them time to pick their spot (see the Southampton goal) trying to head out in front of goal instead of to the side or behind for a corner (see Coventry at home) he lacks pace and gets regularly skinned when he’s one on one, and when a player can’t be reliably depended on to pass to a team mate from two to five yards then i don’t think that player should be a regular starter for us
Today he had over 88% passing success, 4 tackles, 2 clearances, 2 blocks ( of which one was a great goal saving one) and 2 interceptions but apparently he can’t pass or defend.
I really can’t understand how anyone is suggesting that the goal against Southampton was an error on Engel’s part. Well except for they are using it to fit their narrative and Coventry was New Year’s Day, so not exactly regularly making mistakes
Exactly my point. He hasn't been constantly beaten by right wingers.... He was beaten by right wingers in his first few games - QPR was one of them.
Ever since those first few games, he's been given a permanent "not good enough" stamp which fans can't shake off.
He's in the top 95th percentile of all full backs in the league for interceptions, top 88th for blocks, 78th for clearances and 81st for aerials won.
