Letters of no confidence in Sunak, Hunt rumoured to be stepping down as MP before election…,

Do you think the recent byelection losses could have more to do with racist Britain and wanting rid of Sunak. You only have to look at who the members voted in instead of Sunak, only an idiot would have believed Truss could have done a better job.
 
The only chance the tories have is if they have a clear out, then admit all their mistakes but attribute them to the previous administration.
Then campaign at the GE with the message of a new broom with lots of positive promises.
Because like it or not a hell of a lot of people want to vote for them but need some justification to do so.
 
TeessideCleveland said:
Unfortunately as they have until (I think) January 25th 2025 to call it I think they'll keep going hoping 'something turns up' - or the 'road runs out'
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Sounds like there are a couple of options
May - energy prices will come down, there will have been fewer boats (winter) inflation will be lower and avoid another wipeout at the local elections.
More likely - Jan 25 and they just linger for as long as they can
 
1finny said:
Sounds like there are a couple of options
May - energy prices will come down, there will have been fewer boats (winter) inflation will be lower and avoid another wipeout at the local elections.
More likely - Jan 25 and they just linger for as long as they can
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It won't be January. They won't do a winter election as the core demographic of their voters (pensioners) are less likely to turn out.

If they're going to hang on as long as possible it'll be around this time next year.
 
They will stay as long as possible, looking to siphon as much from the public purse as they can and continue to run down public services to levels where Labour won't know where to start to put things right.

Next 12 months will be grim. Although the blue on blue infighting will be funny, coupled with the continual numbers of rats leaving the ship.
 
Sunak's lie about his phone and snapchats - possible perversion of the course of justice.
Simon Case going on the sick before he is due to give evidence at the covid inquiry.
Officials reported by The Times to have deliberately mis-managed HS2 to line pockets.
Tory donors linked to JCB suspected of dodging £500 million in taxes.

And that's just today.

The UK is third rate banana monarchy where blatant, systemic corruption is now the norm.
It will not recover from the catastrophe of the last thirteen years.
 
ThePrisoner said:
Sunak's lie about his phone and snapchats - possible perversion of the course of justice.
Simon Case going on the sick before he is due to give evidence at the covid inquiry.
Officials reported by The Times to have deliberately mis-managed HS2 to line pockets.
Tory donors linked to JCB suspected of dodging £500 million in taxes.

And that's just today.

The UK is third rate banana monarchy where blatant, systemic corruption is now the norm.
It will not recover from the catastrophe of the last thirteen years.
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I suspect that by tomorrow the dog will have eaten their homework
 
For those who can't see the wood for the trees the basic problem is that the national debt is too high. Currently running at about 90% - its very uncomfortable.

It doesn't matter who gets in they can promise the earth but essentially there's little to play with

It doesn't matter who you blame there is precious little wiggle room ..... for anybody
 
Never underestimate the Tories' will to hold on to power. I think they'll remove Sunak for Penny Morduant and hope a nice-looking white lady is enough to bring back all those people who want to vote Tory really. The only thing stopping them is the fact that the leading Tory contenders won't want to risk blowing their chance by getting wiped out at a GE and will be keeping their powder dry for a bid post- (inevitable) defeat. However, if the polls are still flatlining come the Spring then the right-wing press will start to get desperate and the momentum will build again for the old 'Reports are suggesting Sir Graham Brady, Chairman of the 1922 Committee, has received the required amount of letters...etc'.
 
equaliser said:
Never underestimate the Tories' will to hold on to power. I think they'll remove Sunak for Penny Morduant and hope a nice-looking white lady is enough to bring back all those people who want to vote Tory really. The only thing stopping them is the fact that the leading Tory contenders won't want to risk blowing their chance by getting wiped out at a GE and will be keeping their powder dry for a bid post- (inevitable) defeat. However, if the polls are still flatlining come the Spring then the right-wing press will start to get desperate and the momentum will build again for the old 'Reports are suggesting Sir Graham Brady, Chairman of the 1922 Committee, has received the required amount of letters...etc'.
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I wouldn't rule anything out as far as the Tories are concerned, but if they change leader again that is very desperate last throw of the dice. The optics would be terrible 12 months out from a GE (after already having had 2 new PMs that no-one voted for).

It might work on their core support, but I suspect (hopefully) it'll just turn off even more the swing voters they need to win. Johnson won his landslide last time largely because people were fed up of brexit and I think it'd land in a similar way. People are fed up of the Tory psychodrama while they're struggling to pay the bills.
 
They won't be an election or vote of no confidence as the tory mps will want another years wages and expenses
 
1finny said:
Sounds like there are a couple of options
May - energy prices will come down, there will have been fewer boats (winter) inflation will be lower and avoid another wipeout at the local elections.
More likely - Jan 25 and they just linger for as long as they can
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Energy prices coming down any meaningful amount will take a miracle. It's usually pretty well forecasted 1 year in advance. A very mild winter might reduce it a little and a very harsh one and geopolitical instability might make it rise a lot bit for the most part prices are forecast to be high until the end of the decade which may mean a slow taper eg £100 only so drop each year
 
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