Lady Susan Hussey quits over remarks to charity boss Ngozi Fulani

Funky_Chicken said:
It isn’t an example of racism. Not even close.
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What isn't? Repeatedly asking questions of a black person like, "Where are you from?" "No, but where do you really come from? "Where do your people come from?" and "What part of Africa are you from?" then saying, "Well, you must know where you're from," even after the person has already told you several times that they're from the UK, and are British, isn't racist according to you?
 
BoroMart said:
Weird because I've never met a complete stranger who has then proceeded to badger me about my DNA ancestry and refuse to accept that I'm anything other than a british citizen. But then I'm white
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So you can only ask someone’s ancestral roots if you’re the same colour or ethnic background as them - ridiculous! ! Everyone is an immigrant if you can go back far enough. The fact that most black people arrived here in the U.K. in the 1940’s and 50’s means it’s much easier for people now to know where their family originally came from. It would be much harder for most white people here to trace back their ancestral roots as they’d be going back many many generations, that’s just a fact and there’s absolutely nothing racist in asking anyone where their family originated from. I’m no fan of the royals but this Hussey woman has been turned into a sacrificial lamb by the so called royals. And what was this woman doing recording the conversation in the first place ? She’s had absolute pelters from lots of other black people for trying to pull the racism card when there was no such thing happening
 
Funky_Chicken said:
So you can only ask someone’s ancestral roots if you’re the same colour or ethnic background as them - ridiculous!
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Come off it. Of course it's racism. It's maybe rude racism rather than hateful racism, but that doesn't make it any less so. It's like when people weirdly ask black people to let them touch their hair. It's the assumption that the "lady" is owed something and that the black person is just there as a novelty.

Look at the transcript in post #29. Who talks to people in such a way?!
 
SuperStu said:
Come off it. Of course it's racism. It's maybe rude racism rather than hateful racism, but that doesn't make it any less so. It's like when people weirdly ask black people to let them touch their hair. It's the assumption that the "lady" is owed something and that the black person is just there as a novelty.

Look at the transcript in post #29. Who talks to people in such a way?!
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I read an excuse yesterday that Lady Hussey is 'hard of hearing' :rolleyes:
 
Funky_Chicken said:
So you can only ask someone’s ancestral roots if you’re the same colour or ethnic background as them - ridiculous! ! Everyone is an immigrant if you can go back far enough. The fact that most black people arrived here in the U.K. in the 1940’s and 50’s means it’s much easier for people now to know where their family originally came from. It would be much harder for most white people here to trace back their ancestral roots as they’d be going back many many generations, that’s just a fact and there’s absolutely nothing racist in asking anyone where their family originated from. I’m no fan of the royals but this Hussey woman has been turned into a sacrificial lamb by the so called royals. And what was this woman doing recording the conversation in the first place ? She’s had absolute pelters from lots of other black people for trying to pull the racism card when there was no such thing happening
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I agree with this. I think she could have worded it better but I don’t see the issue with asking where a person’s family originates from.

I’ve been in Indian restaurants and chatted to the owners and asked similar things, as they’re nearly always Bangladeshi. I wasn’t being racist, I was just making conversation and taking an interest in them
 
TeessideCleveland said:
Once she had said she was born in this country and British any further 'Where are you really from?' questions are racist
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It really isn’t - unless you have a pretty twisted way of looking at things. If someone asked me where I’m really from I’d say i think some of my ancestors came from Scandinavia, and i certainly wouldn’t think they were racist for asking.
 
Alexander Supertramp said:
I agree with this. I think she could have worded it better but I don’t see the issue with asking where a person’s family originates from.

I’ve been in Indian restaurants and chatted to the owners and asked similar things, as they’re nearly always Bangladeshi. I wasn’t being racist, I was just making conversation and taking an interest in them
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Precisely - no one would have batted an eyelid if Hussey had asked the same question but also happened to be black as well, or indeed if both women were white. It’s so easy to pull the racism card now when there’s actually no malice intended whatsoever
 
Alexander Supertramp said:
I agree with this. I think she could have worded it better but I don’t see the issue with asking where a person’s family originates from.

I’ve been in Indian restaurants and chatted to the owners and asked similar things, as they’re nearly always Bangladeshi. I wasn’t being racist, I was just making conversation and taking an interest in them
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I’m sorry but that’s totally different, imagine the restaurant staff said thornaby, then you ask again and he says I was born in England im English, then you continue to ask him because of the colour of his skin he must be from elsewhere. It’s racist.
 
Like I say, I think it’s the wording of it that’s key. I haven’t read the transcript. But I don’t believe it is inherently racist to ask someone of their family history. The majority of ethnic minorities in this country are likely to be 1st / 2nd / 3rd generation immigrants, so are likely to have a clearer idea of their origins


You see it with a lot of black rappers / celebrities on tv.. they proudly (and rightly) support African countries at the World Cup etc, as they know their family history clearly
 
Alexander Supertramp said:
Like I say, I think it’s the wording of it that’s key. I haven’t read the transcript. But I don’t believe it is inherently racist to ask someone of their family history. The majority of ethnic minorities in this country are likely to be 1st / 2nd / 3rd generation immigrants, so are likely to have a clearer idea of their origins


You see it with a lot of black rappers / celebrities on tv.. they proudly (and rightly) support African countries at the World Cup etc, as they know their family history clearly
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I agree with you on this point but she asked her several times after she stated she was English.
 
It’s the wording, rather than the asking


“so where are you from, Stormzy?”
Stormzy: im from Croydon mate

“so where are your family roots / origins, Stormzy”
Stormzy: my mum is from Ghana, mate
 
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