Kids meals

[On The Bob]

My mother always did/does overboil veg and it's rank. Once it loses the crunch it's terrible. She also cremates meat. No wonder I was a terrible eater as a child.

My Mam was exactly same.

The Mother in Law is the same with meat. Cooked to within an inch of its life. She blames the oven.

I got her a meat temperature probe and chart earlier in the year as she mentioned the probe when she popped round ours for tea one night.

Recent evidence would suggest she still hasn’t used it.

 

[wilkos_perm]

Kids palettes can change over time and some things they won't touch at one point will be their favourite food later. They often don't have the vocabulary to explain what it is they're not happy with so a general "I don't like it" is all the info you're going to get. There's also the method of cooking that can really affect the flavour of a particular food item to the point something you love (e.g. sprouts) can be almost inedible if they're cooked in a style you aren't used to.


They call them "ladies parmos" as a deliberate marketing ploy to get blokes to order the full version. Most of the time it just means more food waste but I have seen grown men forcing themselves to eat the whole thing just to avoid a bit of light ribbing. Humans are funny creatures!

You're right there, what our kids like or don't like changes all the time, we're always pushing them to try stuff again that they think they don't like and quite often they'll start eating it regularly. I think there's adults who won't touch stuff based on not liking it when they were 5 year old. It's a good point on the cooking, if their parents are terrible cooks it's not going to help

 

[Nano]

What does physical wealth mean?

Physical wealth includes the things you own. Cars, TVs, games consoles, phones, furniture, clothes, watches etc. Financial wealth is cash, investments and debts.

 

[Frankie Lee]

Probably because that's the ***** most parents feed their kids

Just been booking somewhere for girlfriends dads birthday and had to avoid all the Michelin places and go with a gastropub as her niece will only eat burgers parmos or pizzas

Not always by choice though. My 8 year old girl has had chicken nuggets and chips for tea almost every day of her life. It’s either that or she’ll starve lol.

 

[changingman]

Admittedly I don't have kids but I find this entire thread utterly bizarre!

As mentioned above, you're paying for a product as described. What you (or anyone else) does with that product isn't relevant surely?

Appreciate there's a grey line with things like train tickets but I always (perhaps wrongly) assumed that was directly linked to a child's inability to pay an adult fare in most cases?

You're basically paying less money for less food? Don't see the problem myself.

Not sure I follow the subsidy point either....presumably that would only work if adult and child meals are always purchased together?

 

[ThatFragranceGuy]

Admittedly I don't have kids but I find this entire thread utterly bizarre!

As mentioned above, you're paying for a product as described. What you (or anyone else) does with that product isn't relevant surely?

Appreciate there's a grey line with things like train tickets but I always (perhaps wrongly) assumed that was directly linked to a child's inability to pay an adult fare in most cases?

You're basically paying less money for less food? Don't see the problem myself.

Not sure I follow the subsidy point either....presumably that would only work if adult and child meals are always purchased together?

Adult and child meals usually are bought together. You dont often see kids dining on their own, but you'll find families going places that have meal options for kids - as above I've just spent the last 4 days having each place vetted for it.

They're designed to be cheap to get kids in the door with parents purchasing full priced meals. It is less money for less food, but they will have an approximate amount of money they need to make for each seat they serve in order to break even and then profit beyond that. If everyone comes in and eats off the mini menu, theyve got to make more per head from everyone else. Generally why many places dont let you just order starters if you arent having a main meal.

 

[Nano]

Not sure I follow the subsidy point either....presumably that would only work if adult and child meals are always purchased together?

I don't know the figures but my guess is that kids meals are break even so they don't make a profit on them but restaurants know that if they didn't offer them then they wouldn't get parents in.

 

[ForssAwakens]

I think you mean factual because it is not ridiculous at all. People in their 20s and 30s need far more help than people over 60.

Median household wealth by age	Physical wealth	Property wealth (net)	Private pension wealth	Financial wealth (net)	Total wealth
20 to 24	£15,000	£-	£1,000	£200	£23,400
25 to 29	£20,200	£-	£6,800	-£100	£45,400
30 to 34	£25,800	£22,000	£19,000	£1,000	£100,300
35 to 39	£31,200	£47,000	£24,800	£2,800	£155,300
40 to 44	£37,000	£82,000	£53,600	£5,000	£243,400
45 to 49	£42,000	£101,000	£88,100	£5,300	£317,000
50 to 54	£45,000	£131,000	£107,400	£5,100	£403,900
55 to 59	£46,000	£160,000	£179,100	£10,600	£495,500
60 to 64	£48,300	£190,000	£254,000	£22,500	£623,000
65+	£45,000	£200,000	£110,200	£25,700	£467,700
All persons	£38,000	£112,000	£68,700	£8,000	£302,500

Median could be skewed though. Median takes the middle point. People under the median will have everyone who is on their ****.

 

[NorthumberlandBoro]

Was in a B & B years ago when the wife gave her husband her egg and the lady who owned the place came and took the egg of his plate saying 'one egg per person'.

Seriously, that's no yoke.

 

[ForssAwakens]

Not always by choice though. My 8 year old girl has had chicken nuggets and chips for tea almost every day of her life. It’s either that or she’ll starve lol.

If you don’t think that is by choice….

 

[Nano]

Median could be skewed though. Median takes the middle point. People under the median will have everyone who is on their ****.

Of course there will be but if you compare it to the median for younger people then even the median are on their ****. It's even worse though because the younger generations with no assets and no cash will not be buying a house so by the time they get to be in the 60+ range their property wealth will still be very low and so will their savings as it will all be going on rent. This shows that half of under 30s have no property wealth, which is expected at that age, but no savings either which means they are not even making progress towards being able to purchase a property.

It just doesn't make any sense that young people that have no prospect of ever owning their own homes, or their wages keeping up with inflation (which pensioners do thanks to their generation having far better pensions plus the triple locked state pension) are having to pay full price for everything while the wealthier generations are getting discounts.

I used median because it wasn't the mean. The Mean average skews things because of very wealthy people. This table shows that on average the older you are the more wealthy you are, and significantly so. Using the mean would have made this look even worse for the younger generations but we use median because it is more representative of reality. I really don't think the older generation will ever grasp how much more difficult the younger generations now have it and they have some weird Daily Mail hate campaign against mobile phones and avocados.

 

[wilkos_perm]

Of course there will be but if you compare it to the median for younger people then even the median are on their ****. It's even worse though because the younger generations with no assets and no cash will not be buying a house so by the time they get to be in the 60+ range their property wealth will still be very low and so will their savings as it will all be going on rent. This shows that half of under 30s have no property wealth, which is expected at that age, but no savings either which means they are not even making progress towards being able to purchase a property.

It just doesn't make any sense that young people that have no prospect of ever owning their own homes, or their wages keeping up with inflation (which pensioners do thanks to their generation having far better pensions plus the triple locked state pension) are having to pay full price for everything while the wealthier generations are getting discounts.

I used median because it wasn't the mean. The Mean average skews things because of very wealthy people. This table shows that on average the older you are the more wealthy you are, and significantly so. Using the mean would have made this look even worse for the younger generations but we use median because it is more representative of reality. I really don't think the older generation will ever grasp how much more difficult the younger generations now have it and they have some weird Daily Mail hate campaign against mobile phones and avocados.

Don't forget cappuccino. Young people buy them, therefore they're just money squanderers. They should be saving that £10 per week instead to buy a house 10 times their salary.

 

[Frankie Lee]

If you don’t think that is by choice….

Clearly you’ve never had a kid that refuses 99% of foods.

 

[wilkos_perm]

Clearly you’ve never had a kid that refuses 99% of foods.

I think his point is that ultimately its the parents who introduce any meal choices in the first place. (Not saying it's not difficult btw)

 

[Colgates_shaving_foam]

Don't forget cappuccino. Young people buy them, therefore they're just money squanderers. They should be saving that £10 per week instead to buy a house 10 times their salary.

But but, they had to pay 15% interest on their mortgages doncha know!

What they forget is that the house was bought for about 3x their salary rather than 5x plus as it is now.

 

[Frankie Lee]

I think his point is that ultimately it’s the parents who introduce any meal choices in the first place. (Not saying it's not difficult btw)

I know what he meant. He was just being a d*ck. I’ve brought up two other kids who eat perfectly normal. The youngest just will not eat. But I bow down to his parenting skills lol