Kawasaki disease

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As a parent who has recently put his child into nursery that scares the sh1t out of me

Yeah, it’s scary. There’s no two ways about it and it’s making me seriously consider whether ours should be going back in June.

I know it’s still very rare and panicking doesn’t help etc, but if cases are growing exponentially then it is a real concern. There’s a 5 year old girl in Britain on a ventilator with it just now.
 
Kawasaki disease isn't new. It's been around since the 60's.

But because hospital intakes are been heavily monitored by every man and his dog these days the media have jumped on the bandwagon. Especially now that covid-19 death rates are coming down.

People need to relax, my kid isn't going back to nursery on June 1st because I'll more than likely still be off work anyways and don't see the point sending her back for 18 days before the summer holidays.
 
Kawasaki disease isn't new. It's been around since the 60's.

But because hospital intakes are been heavily monitored by every man and his dog these days the media have jumped on the bandwagon. Especially now that covid-19 death rates are coming down.

People need to relax, my kid isn't going back to nursery on June 1st because I'll more than likely still be off work anyways and don't see the point sending her back for 18 days before the summer holidays.

Bit of a predicament if one still has to work though.

The thing is, being dismissive of it is all well and good but back in January pretty much the whole of Europe was dismissive about covid-19. I know hysteria doesn’t help, but I think we need to aim for something sensibly in the middle.
 
This one badass virus - it keeps surprising the experts and seemingly has more target vectors than anyone initially suspected. If it is unlocking previously known issues via the unpredictable nature of its offense and unleashing symptoms of other diseases in different age groups, then it is a concern.

As with much of this pandemic, not enough data is available so we have to tread carefully and not just lump everything under one banner - but regardless, be careful out there.
 
This one badass virus - it keeps surprising the experts and seemingly has more target vectors than anyone initially suspected. If it is unlocking previously known issues via the unpredictable nature of its offense and unleashing symptoms of other diseases in different age groups, then it is a concern.

As with much of this pandemic, not enough data is available so we have to tread carefully and not just lump everything under one banner - but regardless, be careful out there.

Fully agree. Don’t panic but don’t assume, is my take.
 
It’s been around since the 60’s sure, but it requires hospital treatment. There is a significant uplift in cases. Bergemo province has reported 18 cases in 2 months. It had 10 cases in the previous 5 years.

25% of cases have heart complications

Not sure it’s wise to file it under scaremongering or to be dismissive about this it.
 
Bit of a predicament if one still has to work though.

The thing is, being dismissive of it is all well and good but back in January pretty much the whole of Europe was dismissive about covid-19. I know hysteria doesn’t help, but I think we need to aim for something sensibly in the middle.
I agree with you. But people are literally going to worry themselves into submission or even worse death.
 
I agree with you. But people are literally going to worry themselves into submission or even worse death.

It scares the sh1t out of me cos it’s a real risk, I won’t stop putting my daughter into nursery as my and my wife still have to work. The risk is now higher as it is implied that covid could trigger a reaction in children

In the same token cancer scares the sh1t out of me too, but I may never get it. It can still scare the sh1t out of me.

I don’t see how the media is jumping on the bandwagon, I know you want to get back to normality as soon a possible but we need to be aware of the risks.

My view would be children should have antibody tests before returning to school
 
GazC I share your concerns. We have a 9 year old due to return to school shortly. Our local LEA is allowing parents to make the decision about their children going back, and we at least have another couple of weeks to make a decision as my daughter won't return until towards the end of June. Still it is a worry.

The upturn in this Kawasaki like disease simply illustrates how little we know about the covid virus and it's long term effects. We may end up with a generation who barely noticed the virus and in later life we see large swathes of the population sufferring from lung disease later in life given the scarring that can happen to peoples lungs.

Goves assurances on the Marr show yesterday did't particularly ease my worries. He avoided some of the questions, and, probably correctly said he couldn't garuantee school safety. He did keep pointing to no know outbreak of covid in schools, which does give some level of assurance, but he doesn't really know what he is doing, in my opinion. They will return our children to school and monitor the R number. Not sure I am prepared to let them do that with my daughter.

Some people will have no choice, and I feel your worries. I am just lucky enough to be able to make the choice myself.
 
Kawasaki disease isn't new. It's been around since the 60's.
OK, but this isn't actually Kawasaki disease - according to the research on this, it is:
a multisystem inflammatory condition with some features similar to those of Kawasaki disease

It's not 100% proven yet, but scientists believe:
this syndrome may be related to COVID-19 based on initial laboratory testing showing positive serology in a majority of patients.

It does remain a relatively rare phenomenon but it certainly puts the lie to the claims by some, that children are not affected by this disease.

Its a Kawasaki Like disease, they’ve given it another name for now.
Correct - it's called PIMS-TS (Paediatric Inflammatory Multisystem Syndrome Temporally associated with SARS-CoV-2).
 
It scares the sh1t out of me cos it’s a real risk, I won’t stop putting my daughter into nursery as my and my wife still have to work. The risk is now higher as it is implied that covid could trigger a reaction in children

In the same token cancer scares the sh1t out of me too, but I may never get it. It can still scare the sh1t out of me.

I don’t see how the media is jumping on the bandwagon, I know you want to get back to normality as soon a possible but we need to be aware of the risks.

My view would be children should have antibody tests before returning to school

First it was the furore over social distancing and washing hands.
Then not having enough beds and ventilators.
Then the lack of PPE.
Then Boris almost died (allegedly), Hancock and Raab caught it and the CMO got infected.
Then the care home scandal.
Then the lifting of certain lockdown restrictions and the attempt by the government to shift blame to the public and turn us against one another.
Then it was people going back to work and now it's hoping to send kids back to school in June, which is still weeks away and all associated risks with it been dragged up.

How I wish people cared as much about schools before this crisis was upon us as they do now.

Every day has its risks. Hell getting out of bed in the morning has a risk, you could fall down th stairs. The worst thing about this virus? It's the mental aspect of it, it seems it's battered us all into submission.
 
GazC I share your concerns. We have a 9 year old due to return to school shortly. Our local LEA is allowing parents to make the decision about their children going back, and we at least have another couple of weeks to make a decision as my daughter won't return until towards the end of June. Still it is a worry.

The upturn in this Kawasaki like disease simply illustrates how little we know about the covid virus and it's long term effects. We may end up with a generation who barely noticed the virus and in later life we see large swathes of the population sufferring from lung disease later in life given the scarring that can happen to peoples lungs.

Goves assurances on the Marr show yesterday did't particularly ease my worries. He avoided some of the questions, and, probably correctly said he couldn't garuantee school safety. He did keep pointing to no know outbreak of covid in schools, which does give some level of assurance, but he doesn't really know what he is doing, in my opinion. They will return our children to school and monitor the R number. Not sure I am prepared to let them do that with my daughter.

Some people will have no choice, and I feel your worries. I am just lucky enough to be able to make the choice myself.

Nice post fella, like you it early days with this virus. This is showing weeks after recovery as well. It’s also affecting a wider range of ages (usually under 5). You have every right to be concerned for your 9 years old. My daughter is 2.

I’ve changed my outlook from she’ll be okay cos she’s 2 and it isn’t effecting kids to thinking ah crap....
 
Randy, I have no idea where you stand on this issue, even reading multiple posts by you. I care about schools and have done for 30 years, I have grown up children. My wife goes into, or did, schools 5 days a week to help the kids who are poor readers. Why do you think no one cared about schools previously?
 
At the very early stages of this pandemic my 5 year old daughter got a rash covering her body. She always has a cold etc and takes it in her stride. But whatever this was made her really poorly. She had a temperature for days and when she started getting better after a week she got stomach cramps with sickness and diarrhea. The doctor put it down to a virus and then a stomach bug. Whatever it was it's scared me to not a chance send mine back to school in June.
 
None of the current virus threats are nice, but one that might impact our youngest, worst, would be cruelest.
Mine are 25 and 23 and I still worry about them with Covid, but my heart goes out to parents who might have to wrestle with this threat to their young uns.
I hope it doesn't gather pace in any way
 
At the very early stages of this pandemic my 5 year old daughter got a rash covering her body. She always has a cold etc and takes it in her stride. But whatever this was made her really poorly. She had a temperature for days and when she started getting better after a week she got stomach cramps with sickness and diarrhea. The doctor put it down to a virus and then a stomach bug. Whatever it was it's scared me to not a chance send mine back to school in June.
That sounds worryingly familiar. Obviously, the majority of kids who do get this thing will be ok, but if you send schools back, you're just casting the net much wider and increasing the likelihood of further tragedies.

All deaths covid related are tragedy’s, but I think most people would agree that no parent should have to grieve for a child. If children die because we send the back to school too early it’ll be a bigger tragedy than the care homes
Yeah, back in February we didn't need to worry about Covid unless we had grandparents in their 90s who were already on death's door. Now look!

I think the government may make a u-turn in light of these stories.
 
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