Jon Venables loses parole board bid to be freed from jail

r00fie1 said:
A client I worked with used to always cause criminal damage at least two days before Christmas, because he knew the cops would shove him in the cells [he had lots of "previous"] He would be warm and get his Christmas dinner. It worked, but otherwise he lived on the streets.
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It's so sad that someone's got to do that to get the support that they need.

What do you do r00fie1?
 
I disagreed with the point he made regarding it being learnt behaviour, relating to experiences from their childhood.
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Why do you disagree with that?


I believe some are just born evil, and I'd place those two scumbags into that category.
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If they were born evil then they can’t be to blame for their actions, as their actions would have been preordained from birth.
 
B_G said:
It's morally wrong to execute anyone but especially a person who committed a crime at 10YO. I can't believe anyone would consider executing a child or keep them alive for 8 years and then execute them. Both scenarios are abhorrent.

For a ten year old child to commit the crimes they had, they must have been exposed to a horrific childhood themselves. Those were learned behaviours not instinctual.
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Good post. I agree with all of it except the first bit. I don't believe it is morally wrong to execute someone. If you had been bereaved by murder, you might change your mind. And if you ever murder someone and you don't welcome death for the outrage of what you have done, then you are not a man.
 
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This one is a very emotive subject for those of us old enough to remember the horrendous act Venables and Thompson carried out.

In my opinion, Venables still being in the criminal justice system, shows the system to be working as it should. Both would have been released under tight conditions, with options for recall at any point. Venables must be one messed up person to keep regressing after all the help he must have received for 30 years.
 
equaliser said:
Good post. I agree with all of it except the first bit. I don't believe it is morally wrong to execute someone. If you had been bereaved by murder, you might change your mind. And if you ever murder someone and you don't welcome death for the outrage of what you have done, then you are not a man.
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I don't believe it's so much morally wrong. but if Kiscko had hanged an innocent man would have been killed ,and evil Castree would never have been caught with DNA - finally getting Lesley Molseed's murderer caught.
And the recent Andrew Malkinson case where he was released after 17 years shows that wrong people are still being convicted
One innocent person killed is too many.
So while some no doubt deserve the death penalty I have to be against it because of the cases above
 
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