Jacob Young MP sucking...

What's even better is that Vickers will be gone next GE
There’s plenty of spam eaters over here in Ingleby that think Vickers has done a great job for them.. they won’t vote for labour because it doesn’t appear represent them. They feel they’re above working class values and would prefer to sit at the foot of the table and be greatful for Tory crumbs… they don’t wants party that’s there for everyone, just them …
 
There’s plenty of spam eaters over here in Ingleby that think Vickers has done a great job for them.. they won’t vote for labour because it doesn’t appear represent them. They feel they’re above working class values and would prefer to sit at the foot of the table and be greatful for Tory crumbs… they don’t wants party that’s there for everyone, just them …
They're the working class that pretend they're not. Why?
 
There’s plenty of spam eaters over here in Ingleby that think Vickers has done a great job for them.. they won’t vote for labour because it doesn’t appear represent them. They feel they’re above working class values and would prefer to sit at the foot of the table and be greatful for Tory crumbs… they don’t wants party that’s there for everyone, just them …
Personally don't get it. I understand in the wealthy areas of the country the wealthy want the status quo retained, so vote Tory ......but the red wall areas and wannabe areas......🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️. Shafted left, right and centre but votes for the party who continues to kick them.
 
There’s plenty of spam eaters over here in Ingleby that think Vickers has done a great job for them.. they won’t vote for labour because it doesn’t appear represent them. They feel they’re above working class values and would prefer to sit at the foot of the table and be greatful for Tory crumbs… they don’t wants party that’s there for everyone, just them …
I live in toytown and not heard anything mentioned about vickers. I'm unaware of any difference he's made.

As to voting intentions, not a clue. If people are happy they'll vote to keep the status quo. I feel the country as a whole was much happier when Labour came in last time, than when the tories came in and kicked off the party with a big dose of austerity.
 
There is a group of voters typically aged 65-85 who often say I never claimed any benefits in my life. They nearly always vote and generally vote Conservative although switched to Labour or Liberals when Blair was around.

They came out of school in the 1950s/60s/early 70s when there was plenty of work on Teesside, housing was cheap when they bought in the 1960s/70s, so they now have a nice fully paid for family house or they rented a council house and then bought it for peanuts. In the late 1980s and early 1990s they bought cheap shares in privatisations and maybe started buying a few more shares possibkly started a private pension in the late 1980s.

They experienced a decent resourced education system and public sector - free school milk, new schools/colleges, free higher education with grants, NHS without queues and long waiting lists.

They benefited by the rise of occupational schemes in the 1960s and 70s and may have paid in for 30 years or more. Schemes that now do not exist for current employees.

They judge themselves different from others who claim any benefits/use food banks, but of course they don't face houses that cost eight to ten times the annual salary or high private rents, not able to join a generous occupational pension, having unstable work patterns, jobs on minimum wage, graduate loans to pay.

I have not making judgements just stating what I sometimes see. We nearly all live to some extent in bubbles of some kind. It is difficult to avoid.

In general they have done well in life and in general feel that people who struggle are not too bright, lazy, lack any ambition or just very unlucky (say develop long term illness when young or middle age).

I am not of the above generation, I left education when unemployment peaked, but I too benefitted from some of the above. I also moved away which has its advantages and disadvantages in my life.
 
Watching that whole thing they are all an insipid loathsome disgrace and set the tone for the current state this country and its people are in.

Real leveling up will be to move the shower of **** that is parliament to the North East.
 
There is a group of voters typically aged 65-85 who often say I never claimed any benefits in my life. They nearly always vote and generally vote Conservative although switched to Labour or Liberals when Blair was around.

They came out of school in the 1950s/60s/early 70s when there was plenty of work on Teesside, housing was cheap when they bought in the 1960s/70s, so they now have a nice fully paid for family house or they rented a council house and then bought it for peanuts. In the late 1980s and early 1990s they bought cheap shares in privatisations and maybe started buying a few more shares possibkly started a private pension in the late 1980s.

They experienced a decent resourced education system and public sector - free school milk, new schools/colleges, free higher education with grants, NHS without queues and long waiting lists.

They benefited by the rise of occupational schemes in the 1960s and 70s and may have paid in for 30 years or more. Schemes that now do not exist for current employees.

They judge themselves different from others who claim any benefits/use food banks, but of course they don't face houses that cost eight to ten times the annual salary or high private rents, not able to join a generous occupational pension, having unstable work patterns, jobs on minimum wage, graduate loans to pay.

I have not making judgements just stating what I sometimes see. We nearly all live to some extent in bubbles of some kind. It is difficult to avoid.

In general they have done well in life and in general feel that people who struggle are not too bright, lazy, lack any ambition or just very unlucky (say develop long term illness when young or middle age).

I am not of the above generation, I left education when unemployment peaked, but I too benefitted from some of the above. I also moved away which has its advantages and disadvantages in my life.

Brilliant post.
 
We've got some Tory MP's on Teesside who I wouldn't trust in a million years. They've got a nasty side and they'd compromise all their constituents for a chance to climb the greasy pole in Westminster.

I wouldn't class Young in that category though, to be nasty and manipulative you need a certain level of intelligence whereas Young gives you the impression that the lights are on but no-one's at home.
 
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