I'm not going for one upsmanship, I'm simply showing that your view was myopic and incomplete. I'm not arguing that lockdown has been crap for many people, but the opposite of lockdown at that time was masses more deaths with an overwhlemed health service, that can't be ignored.
Mart I haven't once argued that lockdowns shouldn't have happened, I have said I am a supporter of them. What I have said, repeatedly, is I question the when and whom.
Once again, not a single preventative measure was put in place before the first lockdown. No working from home, no mask mandate, no social distancing. After the first kickdown masks were still not mandated.
Where would we have been if we had used every tool at our disposal and lockdowns as a last resort, at the right time and for the right places and for the right amount of time.
I don't know and neither does anybody else. What we do know is that countries who used other measures as their preference and lockdowns for shorter times fared better than the uk. They had less covid deaths and orders of magnitude less excess deaths.
They tested less and spent less money on both testing and trace applications.
Their approach was sensible, measured and coherent. Ours was not. To claim that without lockdowns we would have suffered more ignores the other responses that were available to us.
I agree that if you do absolutely nothing then a severe lockdown is all you are left with. If you wait too long to lockdown the lockdown last longer. This is true. It didn't have to be. This is my point.
On the subject of children missing school, this is one example of crap governance and I do not in any way accept the charectarization that it was learning from home for a couple of months. I know that wasn't your words, but card cheats, I am just addressing his comments here also. I personally know of extreme suffering from children in my family.
I know you shouldn't personalise this, it muddies the waters and leads to a comparison of suffering which we absolutely shouldn't do.
I will never agree with the way lockdowns were imposed on us. They became necessary because the government did nothing to ameliorate the situation.
Let's leave this as an agreement to disagree and get back to bashing Johnson and his murderous governance.