IMO one of the worst things to come out of the pandemic is the massive rise in MLM firms preying on the vulnerable

ThatFragranceGuy

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I’m sure anyone on facebook has seen over the last few years a huge rise in companies like body shop at home, scentsy, business bombshells, Ann summers, FM perfume, juice+, Herbalife, utility warehouse, inteletravel etc. Stay at home parents acting like they’re millionaires in waiting by selling tat

there are all network marketing firms / MLM’s which are essentially pyramid schemes in disguise as they have a product to hide behind but their reps are generally their biggest customers

in the USA these firms have to produce an income disclosure statement showing how many at each rung of the ladder and what average earnings are and we’ll over 90% fail to make money. One common one atm is inteletravel, recruiting as independent travel agents. There a joining fee and a monthly fee to pay, but you only get paid once people completed their holiday and if they cancel you get nowt so have worked for free. Imagine the cancellations now! In their figures over 95% of reps don’t make enough to pay the monthly fee, so they are literally customers or the company as payout them while doing work

There is no pay; only commission in sales and recruitment is heavily incentivised. They’re cult like, with toxic positively and fake it til you make it strongly encouraged - if you don’t make it you didn’t want it enough etc and anyone negative is a hater and a negative influence on your life. Some even do car plans and reps proudly proclaim they have earned a car. Reality is it’s a lease contract and if you don’t hit your monthly targets you have to pay the lease payment and tbe firm get kickback for this.
Likewiss they’ve earned free holidays - it’s conventions and need to pay for flights and spending money and attend seminars while there.

It puts strains on friendships and relationships as they see friend and family as sales opportunities

one of the most vile tricks they’re using atm is fake job ads that purport to offer full or part time work with as many hours to suit and no experience necessary. It’s a honey trap in the current environment where people are desperate for work, then they hit them with the sales pitch. MLM’s have exploded since Covid-19 due to everyone being at home and many losing their jobs

terrible business model that needs some regulation ASAP as the reps tell all sorts of lies to get sales “made in the same factory as designer brands” and “-‘axing weight loss results” & “approved by Martin Lewis” etc, company doesn’t care cos reps are making the claims and on the hook for any false claims.

at school fairs and Christmas markets (online this time round) the stalls are all MLM firms and they proudly tell you to support local businesses despite them funnelling cash out of local economies to multi million pound conglomerates and muscling our actual local businesses.

grim

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It's the Tories build back better plan..

I mean they’ve been around for decades, starting with Tupperware Etc. But majority of it today is a huge tax dodge as onky the top earners are bothering to declare anything. But it bugs me tbey target unemployed, benefit claimants, students, stay at home parents and retirees specifically as these are the people that can afford to lose money the least, and lose money they generally do.
 
What's an MLM firm?
Multi level marketing. A business model that skyrocketed since pyramid schemes were rendered illegal

essentially you are self employed, receive zero pay or holiday pension and all that good stuff and earn commission only. Many legitimate firms have MLM arms which lends an air of credibility eg Ann summers parties, body shop at home even Hays Travel doing one.

majority of people make very little because it relies on you having a customer base which in the demographic is usually family and friends and they eventually get sick of buying off you. The ones that do make money are the smooth talkers and bullshitters that amass a huge team under them and the Mukti Level aspect is you get a commission on your sales but you get a small % of those under you that you recruit and then a percent of those that they recruit and so on for several levels down, in a pyramid shape with these <1%’ers at the top and the mugs at the bottom funnelling money upwards

so you go to your kids school Xmas market or a town market and there is a body shop at home stall there and buy a hand cream. Sharon gets £2 for selling it to you and a quid is probably distributed up the pyramid to the various commission levels above her, rest goes to body shop at home, a massive company. While at the stall Sharon tells you how she quit her 9-5 because the money from body shop is so good, she now has financial freedom and is an Area Manager after just 4 weeks

what she doesn’t tell you is area manager is the “title” you get “promoted” to when they’ve sold about £50 worth and recruited 4 mugs , and that she’s made about £50 “profit” for 20 hours work but you have to put out the illusion of success.

 





She does some great content on them
 
Used to work for a firm like this year's and years ago way before I started by chef career.
Mr Fair is spot on, it's all crap, I used to 'earn' £50 for any appointment with a sales rep booked and visited. The issue with that was you were then relying on two other people, the potential customer and the sales rep sticking to and and completing the appointment (the sales rep didn't need to make a sale for you to be paid).
I wrapped it in after three weeks when I was spending more to go to 'work' than what he as earning.
 
I've had to unfollow several of my friends on Facebook over the last year for exactly this reason. Genuine friends as well - people who I'd otherwise consider to be normal - but they've been taken in by this sort of nonsense and I can't be doing with it. It's embarrassing to see their ridiculous posts - it's almost cultlike.
 
I’m sure anyone on facebook has seen over the last few years a huge rise in companies like body shop at home, scentsy, business bombshells, Ann summers, FM perfume, juice+, Herbalife, utility warehouse, inteletravel etc. Stay at home parents acting like they’re millionaires in waiting by selling tat

there are all network marketing firms / MLM’s which are essentially pyramid schemes in disguise as they have a product to hide behind but their reps are generally their biggest customers

in the USA these firms have to produce an income disclosure statement showing how many at each rung of the ladder and what average earnings are and we’ll over 90% fail to make money. One common one atm is inteletravel, recruiting as independent travel agents. There a joining fee and a monthly fee to pay, but you only get paid once people completed their holiday and if they cancel you get nowt so have worked for free. Imagine the cancellations now! In their figures over 95% of reps don’t make enough to pay the monthly fee, so they are literally customers or the company as payout them while doing work

There is no pay; only commission in sales and recruitment is heavily incentivised. They’re cult like, with toxic positively and fake it til you make it strongly encouraged - if you don’t make it you didn’t want it enough etc and anyone negative is a hater and a negative influence on your life. Some even do car plans and reps proudly proclaim they have earned a car. Reality is it’s a lease contract and if you don’t hit your monthly targets you have to pay the lease payment and tbe firm get kickback for this.
Likewiss they’ve earned free holidays - it’s conventions and need to pay for flights and spending money and attend seminars while there.

It puts strains on friendships and relationships as they see friend and family as sales opportunities

one of the most vile tricks they’re using atm is fake job ads that purport to offer full or part time work with as many hours to suit and no experience necessary. It’s a honey trap in the current environment where people are desperate for work, then they hit them with the sales pitch. MLM’s have exploded since Covid-19 due to everyone being at home and many losing their jobs

terrible business model that needs some regulation ASAP as the reps tell all sorts of lies to get sales “made in the same factory as designer brands” and “-‘axing weight loss results” & “approved by Martin Lewis” etc, company doesn’t care cos reps are making the claims and on the hook for any false claims.

at school fairs and Christmas markets (online this time round) the stalls are all MLM firms and they proudly tell you to support local businesses despite them funnelling cash out of local economies to multi million pound conglomerates and muscling our actual local businesses.

grim

👎🏻
You speak the truth, as it seems to me that these companies just suck in the desperate and the needy (in alot of cases).

Then these 'reps' just pester their friends and family for sales in an attempt to make any sales.
 
You speak the truth, as it seems to me that these companies just suck in the desperate and the needy (in alot of cases).

Then these 'reps' just pester their friends and family for sales in an attempt to make any sales.
The reps are usually the actual customer, they just don’t realise it
 
Herbalife has been going since the 1980s at least as I had a client who used to produce all their videos. Have they really been able to continue growing like this for 40 years plus with 95% of their recruits not making any money? It’s incredible when you think about it. It will be a huge pyramid now.
 
A court in Brussels 9 years ago ruled that Herbalife were illegal as they couldn’t show their retail base outside the company. And yet they continue to expand around the world. One of the worlds biggest and longest con jobs.
 
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