If Chris Wilder was still at Boro……..

I know we have our reasons but I'm really surprised how hated he is in football.
Last night he was trending on twitter & it was fans of all clubs celebrating the score.
Why is that?
 
Set Sheffield up last night for utter disaster and that's exactly what happened in the first half with 4 across the back.
Then turned on his players and hinted at using the youth team.
Complete fkwit.
Sheffield Utd should be his last club.
 
theredrooster said:
It's not a case of wholesale change really, just slight tweaks, vary your approach and sometimes go for the quick long throw or kick from the keeper as well as the playing out from the back.

I thought in the first leg against Chelsea we mixed it up a bit, playing out from the back and also kicking it longer. Not aimless balls either but looking to pick out a wide player. Mixing it up a bit occasionally seemed to work. At the moment the opposition know what we're going to do and therefore can set up to press us immediately. You have to mix it up a bit to keep the opposition guessing a bit. Same goes for occasional balls over the top in behind full backs, instead of always playing it around in front of them.
Click to expand...
The issue there is until the stoke game, we didnt have an outlet to mix it up. The 3 behind the striker have no pace and/or lack of ability to run in behind and there is only ELL who can play up top with pace.

We miss Isiah Jones HUGELY! I'd love to see that stats for our PPG with him in the team against him out of it this season. My memory might be playing tricks on me but pretty sure he was out the team at the start of the season with our horrendous run then too.
 
bungydinsdale said:
Oh I don't know but we could be bottom like Rotherham with 19 points and almost certain of relegation. Or we could be in a league below or several leagues below, or we could be in administration, or even sent down to the non-leagues for overspending to buy the success so many of our fans seem to think they are entitled too. I think all of those scenarios would be far far worse than now. But you carry on and Don't Panic!!!
Click to expand...
All of those things are possible. We could all be incinerated in a nuclear holocaust etc.

But as I said, it’s *hard* to imagine things being worse because we’ve never been bottom of the second tier with no hope at this point of the season. Or in the non-leagues etc. Or incinerated in a nuclear holocaust.

So even if we’d still had Wilder, I find it hard to imagine things being *much* worse than the mess the club is currently in, because we’re probably in our biggest mess in 30 odd years, and I’m only in my early 40s.
 
MickaelDebevePhenomenal said:
I may live to regret this statement but think we were much worse off in the death throws of Woodgate, Strachan and Mowbray's tenure. Yes we are on a bad run, but this is a team, minus the injuries, that has competed in this league.
Click to expand...
We weren’t 8 seasons out of the top flight when we had Strachan though. It always felt like we were one good “appointment” away from the PL. We were wrong of course (either that or Mogga was the wrong appointment) but we weren’t in the position we’re in now.

Our status in the league pyramid, at present, is reaching depths we haven’t seen for a long, long time.

I think most fans would have accepted another season of failed play-offs etc, but the way it’s panned out has led me to the conclusion that it’s no longer simply a case of appointing a “good” manager. I feel no optimism for next season tbh.
 
Priv said:
Coaching ability definitely came into it. The whole league sussed a diagonal ball into the space between wide centreback and wingback left us open for a cross and a six yard box tap in. He refused or was unable to change that. He seemed to stick his head in the sand and refuse to admit or simply couldn’t see that he needed to change something.
Click to expand...
We've got a problem now and it's getting a similar response from the man in charge.
 
atypical_boro said:
All of those things are possible. We could all be incinerated in a nuclear holocaust etc.

But as I said, it’s *hard* to imagine things being worse because we’ve never been bottom of the second tier with no hope at this point of the season. Or in the non-leagues etc. Or incinerated in a nuclear holocaust.

So even if we’d still had Wilder, I find it hard to imagine things being *much* worse than the mess the club is currently in, because we’re probably in our biggest mess in 30 odd years, and I’m only in my early 40s.
Click to expand...
I think there's a little too much panic going on. Carrick needs to adjust things but simply because of the fact that he's missing eight players who would be starting matches. That's a big chunk of the side.
 
Corcaigh_the_Cat said:
I think there's a little too much panic going on. Carrick needs to adjust things but simply because of the fact that he's missing eight players who would be starting matches. That's a big chunk of the side.
Click to expand...
That’s true. But as I said I don’t really think Carrick is the issue, and he has been unlucky with injuries.

The club is in a real rut now though, generally. Even if we halt the slide this season, which is of course possible, who knows who’ll be in charge, next season. If it’s Carrick, he’ll have a mammoth task next season too especially as we’re likely to lose a handful of good players over the summer again.
 
We would be in a pickle.
A cheese and Pickle.
A Cheese and pickle sandwich.
A SANDWICH AND SANDWICH.


When he first joined us, he got us playing some wonderful football with good results. But he chucks the players under the bus every time something goes wrong. I don't see with that attitude him being the man for long term success anywhere.

Look at his team now. The Blades are not expected to stay up, and heavy losses are to be expected. But throughout that you need to maintain some kind of decent dressing room atmosphere. Arsenal were always going to beat them easily, so coming out and pointing the finger at ALL of his senior players after that game is only going to result in disillusionment and defeatism from the players that he needs most.
They have Fulham next at home - a game where they should be targeting points (unlike the Arsenal game) but what mindset will the players be in due to the manager blaming them instead of trying to take the heat of them?

Look at the plight of the 3 promoted teams. It is sad to see and alarming for any team promoted.
 
MickaelDebevePhenomenal said:
The issue there is until the stoke game, we didnt have an outlet to mix it up. The 3 behind the striker have no pace and/or lack of ability to run in behind and there is only ELL who can play up top with pace.

We miss Isiah Jones HUGELY! I'd love to see that stats for our PPG with him in the team against him out of it this season. My memory might be playing tricks on me but pretty sure he was out the team at the start of the season with our horrendous run then too.
Click to expand...
I seem to remember it was also the introduction of Coburn into the team that coincided with our improved results. His presence allowed the rest of the team to play through midfield as he kept at least 2 defenders occupied higher up the pitch.
 
Rofesleg said:
I seem to remember it was also the introduction of Coburn into the team that coincided with our improved results. His presence allowed the rest of the team to play through midfield as he kept at least 2 defenders occupied higher up the pitch.
Click to expand...
Yeah absolutely, those two in tandem seem to work, without Jones' pace in behind the opposition defence can push much further forward isolating Coburn too far from goal, condensing the space for our midifeld to play in, in turn making it easier for the opposition to press.
 
Impossible to say. He was hailed as the second coming and the best manager we've had in years in his first season before the wheels fell off. Its almost like a mirror image of whats happening this season albeit it polar opposites in terms of personality I do fear we're going round in circles. Hypothetically speaking I really struggle to see how anybody could do much worse or better for that matter with our run of injuries etc.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top