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FatCat

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Can countries like China succeed in controlling everything and everyone. Surely there is a point in the future where people just rebel against this bs and the rest of the
World just turns their back on them?


 
Worrying indeed but the old saying "if you`ve nothing to hide.......blah blah blah" will be applied to this I`m sure

I don`t get how the software is going to give a true reflection of emotion when you are strapped to a chair either......i`d be pretty anxious even if I wasn`t guilty of anything.....but that could be the point

What jumped out at me was the 2nd to last quote

There have been occasions when I have met some friends and soon after someone from the government contacts me. They warned me, 'Don't see that person, don't do this and that.

That level of control is very scary indeed
 
If we continue to have governments (in many countires) that do not prioritise the interests of their people, we can look forward to a future sandwiched between the forces of AI and Organised Crime. Dystopian or what, eh?
 
End Xinjiang Apartheid. Free the Uyghurs.

Words you’ll never hear the Western left say. Where are the likes of Corbyn and Sanders to champion this cause? Against an actual totalitarian regime oppressing an actually helpless population.
 
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Can countries like China succeed in controlling everything and everyone. Surely there is a point in the future where people just rebel against this bs and the rest of the
World just turns their back on them?


The problem is we rely on Chinese technology and manufacturing. Economically the world, even the US, is too scared to fully stand up to China. Obviously this isn’t right. But it is reality
 
Life amongst certain masses of their population are almost worthless to the leaders of such places as China and North Korea (several more can easily be added). Do as we say, conform, or be imprisoned or killed. Fear and being made to feel worthless coupled with a lack of communication with the outside world is what keeps a lid on things amongst some ethnic groups. I am not sure which is the biggest crime, their leaders controlling behaviours or the wider worlds indifference to the victims. What can be done short of war?
 
Can countries like China succeed in controlling everything and everyone. Surely there is a point in the future where people just rebel against this bs and the rest of the
World just turns their back on them?


As long as our real decision makers can get away with relying on their slave labour to produce what we buy simply because it makes goods cheaper and weakens the UK working class.
 
That John Cena thing, I can imagine WWE would have put pressure on him to apologise. As a company all they care about is money, putting on shows in Saudi Arabia for example purely for money.

Interestingly enough Mr.Cena actually pulled out of one of their Saudi shows for moral reasons.
 
End Xinjiang Apartheid. Free the Uyghurs.

Words you’ll never hear the Western left say. Where are the likes of Corbyn and Sanders to champion this cause? Against an actual totalitarian regime oppressing an actually helpless population.

"China is engaged in a program of mass internment and cultural genocide against the Uighur people. It has also been steadily eroding liberal democracy in Hong Kong."

Bernie Sanders, 2019

 
End Xinjiang Apartheid. Free the Uyghurs.

Words you’ll never hear the Western left say. Where are the likes of Corbyn and Sanders to champion this cause? Against an actual totalitarian regime oppressing an actually helpless population.
Don't even know where to start with that load of bollox. Are you saying that those of on the left don't care about the Uyghurs? Seriously? Because if so you're very wrong. Unless you just lazily think that left = pro China because you somehow equate China with communism and communism with the left which is nuts in this day and age. And what do you want Corbyn and Sanders to do about it? They're powerless. And why bring Israel in to it? Don't get that post at all mate. No idea what you're trying to say.
 
Don't even know where to start with that load of bollox. Are you saying that those of on the left don't care about the Uyghurs? Seriously? Because if so you're very wrong. Unless you just lazily think that left = pro China because you somehow equate China with communism and communism with the left which is nuts in this day and age.
It isn’t nuts at all. You will see far less criticism of the CCP and the People’s Republic of China from the Western left / liberal media than of other regimes. This is despite the fact that they are the most powerful antithesis to freedom and democracy the world has at this moment in time - not to mention a modern-day imperialist colonial oppressor.
 
It isn’t nuts at all. You will see far less criticism of the CCP and the People’s Republic of China from the Western left than of other regimes. This is despite the fact that they are the most powerful antithesis to freedom and democracy the world has at this moment in time - not to mention a modern-day imperialist colonial oppressor.
That's nonsense mate. Not going to get in to an argument with you here but I speak to a lot of people on the left regularly and you're just plain wrong in your assessment in my experience.
 
It isn’t nuts at all. You will see far less criticism of the CCP and the People’s Republic of China from the Western left / liberal media than of other regimes. This is despite the fact that they are the most powerful antithesis to freedom and democracy the world has at this moment in time - not to mention a modern-day imperialist colonial oppressor.

The counterargument to this is: what are the people in power doing to aid those from regimes we are friendly with? Those in Palestine, Yemen etc.

China are a major geopolitical competitor and a central focus of government foreign policy. The foreign causes of the left rarely have that luxury.
 
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