How have people / people values changed over the decades?

[ForssAwakens]

people are used to having so much stuff now, from an early age all the way thru

This comes from a good place but it’s hurting society

My dad generation born in the 60’s suffered quite a bit as did many families, when they became parents they wanted to give their kids more than they got.

My generation want to ensure their kids get more than they did.

Turns the world into spoilt brats

 

[B_G]

Lot more selfish and greedy. Some think of only themselves. Its a me me me society now unfortunately. Sort of echoing what El Guapo said above.

I know people who are no more in acceptance of racial diversity and homosexuality than they were 20 years ago but they just don't shout about it as much but when the conversations get heated they show their true colours.

I'm not sure younger people are more greedy. I think younger people (predominantly males) these days are more likely to sacrifice additional wages for more time at home with family. This may be because more families have a dual income than 30+ years ago but I also think people value their family time / social life more. More people work to live rather than live to work.

Working in construction, when I first started my career, longer hours was always seen as a positive. When site hours changed from 7:30-17:00 to 7:00-18:00 and additional weekend work, the lads would be buzzing with the extra money. These days, when jobs fall behind, it's getting harder and harder to staff the overtime. People don't want it. Particularly the younger people (and I include myself in that at aged 36).

I'm happy with my basic income and I cut my cloth accordingly, an extra hour at home with my kids on a night and my weekends being free to do things is more important to me then earning extra money. I would say this attitude is more common with younger people (younger than 40). The older workforce tend to still want the overtime.

I'm sure some people would view this as laziness or poor work ethic but for me my family life and social life as far more important than my work life. I'm happy to work 45 hours Mon-Fri but I don't want to be working more than that unless it's a one off special occurrence. Apart from the obvious not being present, when I work more than 50 hours a week regularly the exhaustion kicks in and I'm too tired to enjoy my personal life anyway.

 

[Abel Tasman]

In the fashion that Alves would approve. Quite a lot.

 

[Andy_W]

I was surprised at the younger approval of the new king / royal family when compared against the older generation that polled against the sham that the Royal sharabang is..

I'm a bit confused by this, you say you're surprised by the younger approval, which seems like an odd choice of words? Does that mean you were still expecting support to be low, but it hasn't been as low as you were expecting? Less dissaproving maybe, if that's what you meant, but I'm not sure they are though.

They you say compared against the older generation which polled agaisnt the monarchy, but the older generations support the monarchy, a lot more than younger folk.

I might have misunderstood what you read, but the support for the monarchy in general decreases as each new generation is introduced, there's been lots of polls on this.



To be fair to charles he does seem to be a climate advocate and very keen on being green etc (which the young folk will like), but he's not a politician so will have zero control over policy, and his personal thoughts might not outweigh the part of being actually in the royal family to most young folk?

 

[B_G]

I'm a bit confused by this, you say you're surprised by the younger approval, which seems like an odd choice of words? Does that mean you were still expecting support to be low, but it hasn't been as low as you were expecting? Less dissaproving maybe, if that's what you meant, but I'm not sure they are though.

They you say compared against the older generation which polled agaisnt the monarchy, but the older generations support the monarchy, a lot more than younger folk.

I might have misunderstood what you read, but the support for the monarchy in general decreases as each new generation is introduced, there's been lots of polls on this.

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To be fair to charles he does seem to be a climate advocate and very keen on being green etc (which the young folk will like), but he's not a politician so will have zero control over policy, and his personal thoughts might not outweigh the part of being actually in the royal family to most young folk?

Seems odd the age ranges for each bar. As if they've adjusted the age range for each column to get the result they wanted. Also sample of 2030 people seems pretty low.

18-24 - 7 Years
25-49 - 25 Years
50-64 - 15 Years
65+ - ??

I've no doubt that there is a strong correlation between age and monarchy support but that particular survey doesn't look reliable

 

[Rishworthian]

The main point is that the Monarchy has little or no power, although it may have considerable influence. ( both here and abroad)

The idea of an elected head of state fills me with horror !!

Has nobody seen the mess that the politicians of all parties have made of our wonderful country

 

[Andy_W]

Agreed many(not all) younger people have no idea of saving to buy something they want it now. Usuallyfrom the bank of mam and dad.

Do you mean young adults? How are they meant to save, if they don't have anything left over to save, due to the basic cost of living, housing etc? The younger the generation, the harder it's going to be for them, as the multiplier of housing v earnings increases (rent or buy). The younger generations will probably end up being the most frugal, effectively as they will have to.

As for kids, they have less chance as their parents won't have anything themselves either, as they're skint as well.

The reason they ask "bank of mam and dad", soon to be "bank of nana and grandad", is because that's probably the only way they have access to any cash. Paying for higher education (which mam, dad, nana, grandad got free) doesn't help either, or does £5 an hour for an apprentice (effectively slave labour), or £10 an hour for working in a shop or whatever.

The young folk are the ones who I feel most sorry for, the entire deck is stacked against them, and it gets worse every year.

 

[Andy_W]

The idea of an elected head of state fills me with horror !!

Has nobody seen the mess that the politicians of all parties have made of our wonderful country

Yeah, I agree on that, we don't really need it, and I've no idea how you could even start with that.

I'd probably rather have that than a monarchy though, where it just goes down to the next person in line, just seems a bit unfair. It also doesn't seem relatable to me, if we have to have a monarchy/ head of state then I suppose I would rather they be more up-to-date, from a more representable generation etc.

It's not just the politicians, it's the people, the ones who vote, voted for these clowns. Although they could vote in some absolute horror into head of state

 

[Andy_W]

Seems odd the age ranges for each bar. As if they've adjusted the age range for each column to get the result they wanted. Also sample of 2030 people seems pretty low.

18-24 - 7 Years
25-49 - 25 Years
50-64 - 15 Years
65+ - ??

I've no doubt that there is a strong correlation between age and monarchy support but that particular survey doesn't look reliable

Yeah, I never even noticed that, I wonder what the reason was, maybe it was just a public survey and the bands are all 500 people etc?

2000 is good enough to be accurate on a 3 option answer though, and there's likely no way there wouldn't have been an increase in support with age, no matter what the bands were.

It was from a yougov poll I think, so I might go and have a look.

 

[Trug]

Everywhere is so noisy- from shopping centres to supermarkets inane music is blasted from speakers. No such thing as background noise in the pubs- it has to be blasted as loud as possible. A polite request to turn it down usually results either with ignoring at best or the volume being turned up.
The price of a pint increasing with no warning- in the past any price increase would be advertised in the pub at least a week before the price went up- it was usually accompanied with an apology.

 

[Rishworthian]

Overall, I view the Monarchy as benign and Charles and William are looking to keep up with the times. That they are privileged gives us all a bit of a problem but I've concluded that their continuity is better than the short term attention-seeking egotists that pass for politicians

 

[Andy_W]

Overall, I view the Monarchy as benign and Charles and William are looking to keep up with the times. That they are privileged gives us all a bit of a problem but I've concluded that their continuity is better than the short term attention-seeking egotists that pass for politicians

Yeah agree with that on Charles and William, and Harry too, there's nothing more modern than sacking it off.

The politicians which are only out for themselves are far worse, but that's not all of them, largely just the ones the voters vote in 2/3rds of the time.

 

[Andy_W]

Do people walk slower now, and just seem to **** about wasting people's time, it seems that way to me.

Or am I just less accepting of people walking slower and ******* about?

 

[BobUpnDown]

I'm a bit confused by this, you say you're surprised by the younger approval, which seems like an odd choice of words? Does that mean you were still expecting support to be low, but it hasn't been as low as you were expecting? Less dissaproving maybe, if that's what you meant, but I'm not sure they are though.

They you say compared against the older generation which polled agaisnt the monarchy, but the older generations support the monarchy, a lot more than younger folk.

I might have misunderstood what you read, but the support for the monarchy in general decreases as each new generation is introduced, there's been lots of polls on this.

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To be fair to charles he does seem to be a climate advocate and very keen on being green etc (which the young folk will like), but he's not a politician so will have zero control over policy, and his personal thoughts might not outweigh the part of being actually in the royal family to most young folk?

Hmm, I must have seen a - rouge - report, was sure they disapproved more than the older people ( who I imagined had seen the light, & realised what a waste of space & money the whole royal fandango are )

 

[RedAsABeetroot]

Do people walk slower now, and just seem to **** about wasting people's time, it seems that way to me.

Or am I just less accepting of people walking slower and ******* about?

"Down in the high street somebody careered out of Boots without due care or attention
I suggest that they learn some pedestrian etiquette
I.e. sidle out of the store gingerly
Embrace the margin"

Was this written about you?

I'd say people are far less patient of others nowadays, especially while driving.

 

[JM14]

people are used to having so much stuff now, from an early age all the way thru

It’s a different world now, you need a fair amount of tech just go do basic things now which wouldn’t be an issue 40 years ago. Cars, phones, laptops etc are all difficult to do without

 

[newyddion]

80s - political correctness gone mad
Chubby Brown, Bernard Manning etc

90s - irony and lad culture
Baddiel in blackface.. because it was.. ironic?

00s - ‘The Millenium- the great change
The Twin Towers, The War on Terror.. brown people were looked at with more suspicion at airports.. as we’re soft drinks, and sun tan lotions. Bo Selecta was very popular as was Little Britain. MySpace starts and finishes.

10s - As a result of the Labour Party moving too far to the right they lost.. the Lib Dems scooped up the left votes and handed them to the tories.. so begins the attack on the nhs and our most vulnerable. bit of hope at the end there but the powers that be soon put a stop to that. Cancel culture is spoken of but it doesn’t really happen.

20s - Black Lives Matter because part of a worldwide conversation for a short while. Corporation rainbow flags appeared en masse with everyone jumping on the bandwagon.. still supporting the actions of those bringing in anti-gay legislation.
‘the age of toxic masculinity’ big platform for the likes of Piers Morgan, Lawrence Fox, Andrew Tate..

Conversationally racist and homophobic to subconsciously.. now institutionalised.. hopefully the penny drops and we see we’re all in it together.

Common them of some divvy still being heard loud and clear and our pockets being emptied at every opportunity.. freedom of speech.. unless it goes against the rich, the corporations, the corrupt government and media organisations.

What will we see in the 30s? A wider range of people able to say destructive things against their fellow man? Less money for us all? More power to the government?

It just seems like we’re getting more smarmy and cowardly. Like.. look nicer on the outside.. but actually much worse.

 

[wilkos_perm]

Seems odd the age ranges for each bar. As if they've adjusted the age range for each column to get the result they wanted. Also sample of 2030 people seems pretty low.

18-24 - 7 Years
25-49 - 25 Years
50-64 - 15 Years
65+ - ??

I've no doubt that there is a strong correlation between age and monarchy support but that particular survey doesn't look reliable

It's pretty standard accepted age ranges you see on most surveys.
Young adults vs working adults possibly with kids vs older working adults vs retired people. No easy way to categorise but faily sensible splits.
2030 isn'rt a bad sample size for representitive results, although more is always better

 

[Will_Graham]

It's pretty standard accepted age ranges you see on most surveys.
Young adults vs working adults possibly with kids vs older working adults vs retired people. No easy way to categorise but faily sensible splits.
2030 isn'rt a bad sample size for representitive results, although more is always better

I agree, the age range split seem pretty standard and logical to me.

 

[B_G]

It's pretty standard accepted age ranges you see on most surveys.
Young adults vs working adults possibly with kids vs older working adults vs retired people. No easy way to categorise but faily sensible splits.
2030 isn'rt a bad sample size for representitive results, although more is always better

The reason I would say its a small sample size is location is also a big factor in this subject in my opinion. To get accuracy and a fair representation you would need a larger sample and adequately represent the UK