Houchen and Stilts want to take over the council

[JonnyHistory]

Does he know that Labour are the new Tories yet?

Don't think he cares as long as he gets his services for free it seems.

Local councils (mostly) are in this position not because they are being badly mismanaged but because they are underfunded. Redcar are around £50 mil down in real terms on their budget, councils can only cut so much.

If you want services like green waste they need to be paid for somehow but people like Nobby think the Torys will come in with their magic rhetoric and suddenly a bare bones budget can fund everything!

 

[Nobby_Barnes]

Does he know that Labour are the new Tories yet?

I do know that me and you are probably the only 2 on here that pay council tax to Middlesbrough Council so the rest of em can butt out if you ask me

 

[Nobby_Barnes]

You're supporting it.

I'm not I just said it might not be a bad thing....

 

[JonnyHistory]

I'm not I just said it might not be a bad thing....

And knowing that the people you are advocating are in a large part responsible for this mess why do you think it would be a good thing?

 

[TeaCider]

I'm not I just said it might not be a bad thing....

You were literally calling for it to happen yesterday.

 

[Nobby_Barnes]

And knowing that the people you are advocating are in a large part responsible for this mess why do you think it would be a good thing?

The financial mess the council finds itself in is surely a result of mismanagement for years not just 2022/23

 

[JonnyHistory]

The financial mess the council finds itself in is surely a result of mismanagement for years not just 2022/23

Yes and Clarke is a major part of that being an MP here for how long now?
The underfunding is a Tory policy and the Tories have had a majority for a number of the years that have been mismanaged.

SO again I will ask you.
Why do you think advocating for the people who have a large responsibility for the mess Middlesbrough council is in, is a good idea?

You keep avoiding this question why so evasive it should be easy.

 

[LessoftheLip]

The financial mess the council finds itself in is surely a result of mismanagement for years not just 2022/23

Er no, it's been caused by 14 years of austerity.

 

[Nobby_Barnes]

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You were literally calling for it to happen yesterday.

More ITK I would say

 

[JonnyHistory]

More ITK I would say

Nobby why do you think those responsible for this mess should be in charge of fixing it?

 

[HarryVegas]

*cough*

Shill.

 

[LessoftheLip]

the rest of em can butt out if you ask me

 

[fmttmadmin]

Utterly sickening. How can they stoop this low?

 

[HarryVegas]

Utterly sickening. How can they stoop this low?

It's who they are.

 

[Steve Bee]

This might not be such a bad thing guys, someone needs to get a hold of the finances, even with the proposed cuts there is still a 6M shortage. I really don't want to pay 40BAR for disposing of my grass cuttings

Utter rubbish. How could those 2 be a better thing?

 

[JonnyHistory]

It's who they are.

And yet the class traitors and easily fooled keep advocating and voting for them.

 

[newyddion]

I do know that me and you are probably the only 2 on here that pay council tax to Middlesbrough Council so the rest of em can butt out if you ask me

Not a fan of any of them tbh

Being competent and doing the right thing seems like absolute witchcraft.

 

[ThePrisoner]

And yet the class traitors and easily fooled keep advocating and voting for them.

A disturbingly high proportion of people still want to vote for a strong man who says he will get things done by simply bypassing then barring all opposition. The unthinking still voting for demagogues in the 21st century.

 

[JonnyHistory]

A disturbingly high proportion of people still want to vote for a strong man who says he will get things done by simply bypassing then barring all opposition. The unthinking still voting for demagogues in the 21st century.

I am reading a book on the Russian revolution at the minute and it never fails to surprise me how much certain things never change!

You are completely on point in everything you say, it was true then and still true today.

 

[FishofContemplation]

Er no, it's been caused by 14 years of austerity.

Yeah 14 years. Not 9. And the worst numerically by a distance were the first five. I’d like some of you centrist granddads to remember that next time you suggest to me that I should vote LibDem as a compromise.