High value business travellers

Wilf said:
its says on the Beeb that you must guarantee 50 new jobs or £100,000 in investment(s) to get the Nod.

how can a salesman guarantee that ?

of course you can say thats an aim or potential, but no mention of what happens if a business deal falls through or if theres a penalty for failure to produce 50 jobs - do you fail if you only get 48 jobs ?.

do you think football C.E.O./scouts would meet the criteria ? - certainly on the £100,000 investment if they sign a player, and should that player be the final piece of the jigsaw and promotion is achieved, then yes there could be a case for 50 new jobs - its a complete farce, i know we are in the pantomime season but Wicked Widow Schnapps must believe his on a magic carpet.
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Any CEO worth their salt can put a case together to meet that criteria.

You do wonder why they have done this? It really isn’t about helping the travel industry or ‘important face to face‘ meetings - leaders have found virtual is as good.
 
1finny said:
Any CEO worth their salt can put a case together to meet that criteria.

You do wonder why they have done this? It really isn’t about helping the travel industry or ‘important face to face‘ meetings - leaders have found virtual is as good.
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Any CEO worth their salt has a corporate jet (or two) so doesn't have to mingle with the riff raff, even at the front of a plane.
 
Everyone knows the richer you are the less chance you have of passing on covid . Surprised it didn't happen sooner , great example of tory ideology
 
jam69 said:
Everyone knows the richer you are the less chance you have of passing on covid . Surprised it didn't happen sooner , great example of tory ideology
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Only poor people spread germs and catch diseases. I thought everyone knew that? I am sure it was some dirty scruff bag commoner who gave it to Boris.
 
Billy69_uk said:
Only poor people spread germs and catch diseases. I thought everyone knew that? I am sure it was some dirty scruff bag commoner who gave it to Boris.
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Going by past form, and with any luck, Boris' infector was probably some filly who didn't just pass the one germ onto him.
 
slavens_holgate_fence said:
unfortunately every human life has a price.... this is set by corporations
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I remember reading an article a few years ago about the US automotive industry in the 70's and 80's, where they had a series of calculations regarding fixing serious safety issues.

They would look at how much it would cost to fix and compare that to the potential cost of being sued for damages following an incident. If being sued was cheaper, then they would just not fix the issue and deal with the family of those killed or injured.

I think there was a high profile case in the 70's regarding the Ford Pinto which would burst into flames at the merest of rear end shunts. I think there were reports of up to 200 deaths caused by it before Ford decided to do something about it because the negative PR was too much.

I dont suppose things have progressed much today.
 
Billy69_uk said:
I remember reading an article a few years ago about the US automotive industry in the 70's and 80's, where they had a series of calculations regarding fixing serious safety issues.

They would look at how much it would cost to fix and compare that to the potential cost of being sued for damages following an incident. If being sued was cheaper, then they would just not fix the issue and deal with the family of those killed or injured.

I think there was a high profile case in the 70's regarding the Ford Pinto which would burst into flames at the merest of rear end shunts. I think there were reports of up to 200 deaths caused by it before Ford decided to do something about it because the negative PR was too much.

I dont suppose things have progressed much today.
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This is completely true. Companies would employ HazOps specialists (Hazard Operability) who calculated likelihood odds etc. Thankfully things have progressed since then.
 
If you look at the Piper Alpha disaster and the wider oil/gas industry, the levels of risk accepted (in fact demanded) by all those companies was horrendous. Thankfully, after the Cullen report, they all bought into a step change process and began to spend real money on the safety of their people. Before that, anyone who stopped a job for safety could expect to be sent home with an NRB note. NRB stood for 'Not Required Back' and his career in the sector was effectively over.

There are still parts of the world, where they are where we were up to then. Change can be grindingly slow.
 
1finny said:
Any CEO worth their salt can put a case together to meet that criteria.

You do wonder why they have done this? It really isn’t about helping the travel industry or ‘important face to face‘ meetings - leaders have found virtual is as good.
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It won’t help the likes of Easy Jet but it’s massive for us. So much of our market is business travel especially business to America. The premium seats usually cover the cost of the flight, economy is pure profit. Not sure virtual will ever fully replace actual face to face especially if you want to see the full operation etc. The new BA club suite is nice, flew it to New York but I literally just pay the tax so about £150 return 😉
 
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1finny said:
Any CEO worth their salt can put a case together to meet that criteria.

You do wonder why they have done this? It really isn’t about helping the travel industry or ‘important face to face‘ meetings - leaders have found virtual is as good.
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As I mentioned earlier it's obvious it's a work around for Xmas breaks away from this country for those who can afford to do so.
 
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