Government to overturn Post Office convictions

Unless Fujitsu were demonstrably negligent in the application of their software you'd struggle to get anything out of them.

If software developers were responsible for the application of their software per se they'd never take that risk.
 
Just listening to Stephen Bradshaw give evidence to the inquiry and it sounds like he's out of his depth.

There's been information he had that he withheld from the defence teams that would have highlighted the Horizon problems.
 
Norman_Conquest said:
Just listening to Stephen Bradshaw give evidence to the inquiry and it sounds like he's out of his depth.

There's been information he had that he withheld from the defence teams that would have highlighted the Horizon problems.
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And he suggests he was quoting statements during investigations that were given to him from the Post Office's Solicitors.
There'll be audit trails to all of this.
Those responsible need to be brought to account.

Fraud has resulted in wrongful convictions and imprisonment to totally innocent individuals.
There could and should be quite a few people seeing the inside of a prison cell themselves after this.
 
By having a law passed in Parliament, which with a swipe of a pen declares all those concerned are now innocent, is in Sunak’s political interest.
The compensation scheme will take years, along with the apparent idea of breach of contract claims against Fujiwottsit.
He can revert to his favourite reply to every question.”I can’t comment while the recompense schemes are in operation” or some similar drivel.
 
Im watching the public inquiry live at the moment and this Senior Investigator is sat in his chair absolutely squirming and coming across as a right arrogant bstard. He is denying 'You were the only one" stated to poor Jacqueline McDonald meant that she was the only one in the Post Office with issues with Horizon - but she was the only one "in that Branch". A bare faced liar in fact.
 
Billy Horner said:
I think this is just the Tory spin machine trotting this stuff out, to be honest, as it's both politically opportune for them and deflects from the fact that the last 14 years of this saga has happened on their watch.
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To the degree, that is true. There is an element of attempting to deflect. But ministerial responsibility is ministerial responsibility and I often comment that we seem to have completely forgotten that of those 14 years the first five were also on the Lib Dem watch, and in many respects, particularly with regard to austerity, those first five were the worst. I don’t understand why they seem to get a free pass on their role as facilitators during that period.
 
Zoophonic said:
Im watching the public inquiry live at the moment and this Senior Investigator is sat in his chair absolutely squirming and coming across as a right arrogant bstard. He is denying 'You were the only one" stated to poor Jacqueline McDonald meant that she was the only one in the Post Office with issues with Horizon - but she was the only one "in that Branch". A bare faced liar in fact.
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Internally they were called narks. A nasty bully who interrogated postmasters and misstresses and sent them to prison with apparent glee. Stephen Bradshaw is his name.
 
Having been involved with high value ($Billions) commercial cases at work one thing I learned very quickly is how simple seemingly innocuos emails penned 'in the heat of the moment' can and will come back to haunt years later.
A thing called Disclosure shares all info to both sides.
 
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If the two Public Inquiry witnesses. ie the Post Office and Teesport, which are going on at the same time, do not have to give full evidence because they might incriminate themselves ( Post office), and Parliament Committee witnesses (eg Gove / Teesport) do not have to give full answers for fear of pre-empting the findings then ...... what's the point?
 
ThePrisoner said:
Let's not distracted though. This Bradshaw bloke is the bottom of the food chain. The top predators are still untouched.
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Yes very frustrating watching all this. Bradshaw is odious and a bully absolutely yes but he's a fall guy for those above him.
 
Cardiffdaffs said:
If the two Public Inquiry witnesses. ie the Post Office and Teesport, which are going on at the same time, do not have to give full evidence because they might incriminate themselves ( Post office), and Parliament Committee witnesses (eg Gove / Teesport) do not have to give full answers for fear of pre-empting the findings then ...... what's the point?
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There is no public inquiry at Teesport. There is a fake government investigation which was supposed to have produced a report last summer but which was not produced and probably never will be. Certainly not before the mayoral election or the general election. Corrupt tory swines.
 
ThePrisoner said:
There is no public inquiry at Teesport. There is a fake government investigation which was supposed to have produced a report last summer but which was not produced and probably never will be. Certainly not before the mayoral election or the general election. Corrupt tory swines.
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It is indeed a Parliamentary Committee inquiry which has the sole use of a talking shop and has no powers to produce evidence.
 
zzzzz said:
Unless Fujitsu were demonstrably negligent in the application of their software you'd struggle to get anything out of them.

If software developers were responsible for the application of their software per se they'd never take that risk.
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Agree with that.
The evidence suggests PO were aware of problems and ignored the potential consequences.
There is a history of people signing up to huge IT infrastructure changes doubling down to protect their reputations.
No CEO likes to admit they have wasted hundreds of millions
Thankfully in most instances their is no impact on innocent people
 
Bradshaw nasty piece of work.
Too many people independently accuse him of being a bully and abusive.
60+ calls to one poor lady.
 
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