Government to overturn Post Office convictions

LessoftheLip said:
I'm all for reform of the judiciary but if the Government is going to be able to quash convictions on their own say-so then I'd be worried about what else they could do with that power.
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Exactly, it looks like they're looking for a quick fix rather than addressing the systemic reasons this all happened and excusing the people with crimes to answer. As usual, a quick fix that will only cause a greater range of unforeseen problems.
 
This from Bradshaw is disgusting. It is obvious he knew about the Horizon issues and was trying to brush them under the counter.


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Piccadilly Day Tripper said:
Exactly, it looks like they're looking for a quick fix rather than addressing the systemic reasons this all happened and excusing the people with crimes to answer. As usual, a quick fix that will only cause a greater range of unforeseen problems.
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Once convictions are quashed it will be 'time to move on'. No point in pursuing those who carried out this travesty.
 
All of the other inquiry days are available on Youtube, scrolled through a few (working from home :D ) and the collective amnesia from POL employees is astonishing.

They must have been putting something in the tea.
 
When any normal and sound minded person looks at this scandal they can't quite believe it could happen. People weren't aware of the exact details and when all was layed out on TV by a documented drama, it has shocked everyone. Not only is there an overwhelming sense of injustice and wrongdoing, but it also leaves a frightening thought of what could happen moving forward with AI, etc.

How could it actually happen? One factor is at the top of organisations and in politics, law, media, etc, you have a very high % of psychopaths and those who show related tendencies. The rate of incidence is predicted at 10% or higher compared to 1% in the general population.
 
zzzzz said:
Unless Fujitsu were demonstrably negligent in the application of their software you'd struggle to get anything out of them.

If software developers were responsible for the application of their software per se they'd never take that risk.
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Fujitsu may not be liable merely for there being faults in their software, but they should definitely be liable for participating in the lying and cover up of those faults, denying that their engineers were able to access subpostmasters systems remotely etc.

As the Computer Weekly article below points out:

Before handing down his judgment in the GLO, judge Peter Fraser announced his concerns over the accuracy of evidence given in court by Fujitsu in previous trials of subpostmasters.
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Fujitsu to finally face blame for its part in Post Office Horizon scandal

So basically, what the judge was saying was that Fujitsu representatives lied in court. And for that, they should be held accountable.
 
Liamo said:
Fujitsu may not be liable merely for there being faults in their software, but they should definitely be liable for participating in the lying and cover up of those faults, denying that their engineers were able to access subpostmasters systems remotely etc.

As the Computer Weekly article below points out:



Fujitsu to finally face blame for its part in Post Office Horizon scandal

So basically, what the judge was saying was that Fujitsu representatives lied in court. And for that, they should be held accountable.
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Bang on that. If they lied at all they will be liable and should be made to pay all of the relevant compensation plus massive fines.
Maybe some jail time.
 
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