Glastonbury Censorship

This idea that people should move on and ‘let go of/get over Corbyn’ is misguided IMO. One thing that stands out to my mind is this - the people who make and watch these films, who call out the lies and inconsistencies of those now in charge of the Labour Party, who call out the disgraceful campaign waged against the previous Labour leader not just from the right-wing/Establishment media but from staff members actually inside the party, who in theory were supposed to working to ensure a Labour government would be elected but who were actually doing the opposite, they are doing those things in response to the direction the country has taken since 2010(if not 2008).

Corbyn was a figurehead for the anti-austerity movement, for the poor, for the disabled, for refugees, migrants, for public ownership, for wealth redistribution, for social housing, for the homeless. This movement has been growing and growing and growing in the UK for years and years. The establishment media were not just trashing him, they were trashing opposing voices of any kind. They have been crushing the left into the ground for years. They will crush the poor, the left, black people, gay people, women, the disabled, immigrants, trans people. They will crush the opposition, any dissent. They will crush the unions.

Corbyn may be gone now but these groups, movements, this anger, this need for change and for something better, still exists and continues to grow. People are still striking, protesting, organising, marching, standing up, fighting. The young were mobilised by Corbyn’s policies, not necessarily the man himself. You put anyone up there saying what Corbyn said and a lot of people will follow.

This film being cancelled achieves nothing apart from showing us who really calls the shots. Pressure has been applied to the Glastonbury organisers and they have buckled. Those who champion free speech, from across the political and news spectrum, including Farage and Fox and McKenzie and O’Brien and Hartley-Brewer and Wootton, I’m sure they’ll be explaining why this film should be shown as planned.

The bottom line is the country is f*cked. Everybody knows it. The Tories know it, the Labour leaders know it. It needs radical change. It needs wealth redistribution and radical investment. There was a will to acknowledge and entertain and propose the ideas from the last Labour leader. There is none of that now. Which is why things will not get better.

And which is why people will still talk about what happened with Corbyn, because he was proposing something that would’ve made people’s lives better. Believe it or not, that matters to a lot of people. Until we have a government who governs on that basis, you’re just never going to get away from this sort of thing IMO.

You can ban or remove or shy away from showing this film all you want but you can’t ignore the facts. They’re all there in black and white. The rich are getting richer at a quicker rate than ever, tax avoidance and corruption is off the scale, prices and bills and mortgages and inflation are through the roof, the NHS is f*cked, the media is absolutely rotten to the core, services are cut to the bone, homelessness and child poverty is through the roof. Absolutely nothing works. Nothing at all.

Until someone in public life acknowledges these things then brace yourself for an even worse time. A film about Jeremy Corbyn being shown or not shown does not change anything. We are f*cked. At least Corbyn had the balls to call it out.
 
This idea that people should move on and ‘let go of/get over Corbyn’ is misguided IMO. One thing that stands out to my mind is this - the people who make and watch these films, who call out the lies and inconsistencies of those now in charge of the Labour Party, who call out the disgraceful campaign waged against the previous Labour leader not just from the right-wing/Establishment media but from staff members actually inside the party, who in theory were supposed to working to ensure a Labour government would be elected but who were actually doing the opposite, they are doing those things in response to the direction the country has taken since 2010(if not 2008).

Corbyn was a figurehead for the anti-austerity movement, for the poor, for the disabled, for refugees, migrants, for public ownership, for wealth redistribution, for social housing, for the homeless. This movement has been growing and growing and growing in the UK for years and years. The establishment media were not just trashing him, they were trashing opposing voices of any kind. They have been crushing the left into the ground for years. They will crush the poor, the left, black people, gay people, women, the disabled, immigrants, trans people. They will crush the opposition, any dissent. They will crush the unions.

Corbyn may be gone now but these groups, movements, this anger, this need for change and for something better, still exists and continues to grow. People are still striking, protesting, organising, marching, standing up, fighting. The young were mobilised by Corbyn’s policies, not necessarily the man himself. You put anyone up there saying what Corbyn said and a lot of people will follow.

This film being cancelled achieves nothing apart from showing us who really calls the shots. Pressure has been applied to the Glastonbury organisers and they have buckled. Those who champion free speech, from across the political and news spectrum, including Farage and Fox and McKenzie and O’Brien and Hartley-Brewer and Wootton, I’m sure they’ll be explaining why this film should be shown as planned.

The bottom line is the country is f*cked. Everybody knows it. The Tories know it, the Labour leaders know it. It needs radical change. It needs wealth redistribution and radical investment. There was a will to acknowledge and entertain and propose the ideas from the last Labour leader. There is none of that now. Which is why things will not get better.

And which is why people will still talk about what happened with Corbyn, because he was proposing something that would’ve made people’s lives better. Believe it or not, that matters to a lot of people. Until we have a government who governs on that basis, you’re just never going to get away from this sort of thing IMO.

You can ban or remove or shy away from showing this film all you want but you can’t ignore the facts. They’re all there in black and white. The rich are getting richer at a quicker rate than ever, tax avoidance and corruption is off the scale, prices and bills and mortgages and inflation are through the roof, the NHS is f*cked, the media is absolutely rotten to the core, services are cut to the bone, homelessness and child poverty is through the roof. Absolutely nothing works. Nothing at all.

Until someone in public life acknowledges these things then brace yourself for an even worse time. A film about Jeremy Corbyn being shown or not shown does not change anything. We are f*cked. At least Corbyn had the balls to call it out.
Nailed it. Won't go down well on here though.
 
This idea that people should move on and ‘let go of/get over Corbyn’ is misguided IMO. One thing that stands out to my mind is this - the people who make and watch these films, who call out the lies and inconsistencies of those now in charge of the Labour Party, who call out the disgraceful campaign waged against the previous Labour leader not just from the right-wing/Establishment media but from staff members actually inside the party, who in theory were supposed to working to ensure a Labour government would be elected but who were actually doing the opposite, they are doing those things in response to the direction the country has taken since 2010(if not 2008).

Corbyn was a figurehead for the anti-austerity movement, for the poor, for the disabled, for refugees, migrants, for public ownership, for wealth redistribution, for social housing, for the homeless. This movement has been growing and growing and growing in the UK for years and years. The establishment media were not just trashing him, they were trashing opposing voices of any kind. They have been crushing the left into the ground for years. They will crush the poor, the left, black people, gay people, women, the disabled, immigrants, trans people. They will crush the opposition, any dissent. They will crush the unions.

Corbyn may be gone now but these groups, movements, this anger, this need for change and for something better, still exists and continues to grow. People are still striking, protesting, organising, marching, standing up, fighting. The young were mobilised by Corbyn’s policies, not necessarily the man himself. You put anyone up there saying what Corbyn said and a lot of people will follow.

This film being cancelled achieves nothing apart from showing us who really calls the shots. Pressure has been applied to the Glastonbury organisers and they have buckled. Those who champion free speech, from across the political and news spectrum, including Farage and Fox and McKenzie and O’Brien and Hartley-Brewer and Wootton, I’m sure they’ll be explaining why this film should be shown as planned.

The bottom line is the country is f*cked. Everybody knows it. The Tories know it, the Labour leaders know it. It needs radical change. It needs wealth redistribution and radical investment. There was a will to acknowledge and entertain and propose the ideas from the last Labour leader. There is none of that now. Which is why things will not get better.

And which is why people will still talk about what happened with Corbyn, because he was proposing something that would’ve made people’s lives better. Believe it or not, that matters to a lot of people. Until we have a government who governs on that basis, you’re just never going to get away from this sort of thing IMO.

You can ban or remove or shy away from showing this film all you want but you can’t ignore the facts. They’re all there in black and white. The rich are getting richer at a quicker rate than ever, tax avoidance and corruption is off the scale, prices and bills and mortgages and inflation are through the roof, the NHS is f*cked, the media is absolutely rotten to the core, services are cut to the bone, homelessness and child poverty is through the roof. Absolutely nothing works. Nothing at all.

Until someone in public life acknowledges these things then brace yourself for an even worse time. A film about Jeremy Corbyn being shown or not shown does not change anything. We are f*cked. At least Corbyn had the balls to call it out.
Excellent post, viv.
 
This idea that people should move on and ‘let go of/get over Corbyn’ is misguided IMO. One thing that stands out to my mind is this - the people who make and watch these films, who call out the lies and inconsistencies of those now in charge of the Labour Party, who call out the disgraceful campaign waged against the previous Labour leader not just from the right-wing/Establishment media but from staff members actually inside the party, who in theory were supposed to working to ensure a Labour government would be elected but who were actually doing the opposite, they are doing those things in response to the direction the country has taken since 2010(if not 2008).

Corbyn was a figurehead for the anti-austerity movement, for the poor, for the disabled, for refugees, migrants, for public ownership, for wealth redistribution, for social housing, for the homeless. This movement has been growing and growing and growing in the UK for years and years. The establishment media were not just trashing him, they were trashing opposing voices of any kind. They have been crushing the left into the ground for years. They will crush the poor, the left, black people, gay people, women, the disabled, immigrants, trans people. They will crush the opposition, any dissent. They will crush the unions.

Corbyn may be gone now but these groups, movements, this anger, this need for change and for something better, still exists and continues to grow. People are still striking, protesting, organising, marching, standing up, fighting. The young were mobilised by Corbyn’s policies, not necessarily the man himself. You put anyone up there saying what Corbyn said and a lot of people will follow.

This film being cancelled achieves nothing apart from showing us who really calls the shots. Pressure has been applied to the Glastonbury organisers and they have buckled. Those who champion free speech, from across the political and news spectrum, including Farage and Fox and McKenzie and O’Brien and Hartley-Brewer and Wootton, I’m sure they’ll be explaining why this film should be shown as planned.

The bottom line is the country is f*cked. Everybody knows it. The Tories know it, the Labour leaders know it. It needs radical change. It needs wealth redistribution and radical investment. There was a will to acknowledge and entertain and propose the ideas from the last Labour leader. There is none of that now. Which is why things will not get better.

And which is why people will still talk about what happened with Corbyn, because he was proposing something that would’ve made people’s lives better. Believe it or not, that matters to a lot of people. Until we have a government who governs on that basis, you’re just never going to get away from this sort of thing IMO.

You can ban or remove or shy away from showing this film all you want but you can’t ignore the facts. They’re all there in black and white. The rich are getting richer at a quicker rate than ever, tax avoidance and corruption is off the scale, prices and bills and mortgages and inflation are through the roof, the NHS is f*cked, the media is absolutely rotten to the core, services are cut to the bone, homelessness and child poverty is through the roof. Absolutely nothing works. Nothing at all.

Until someone in public life acknowledges these things then brace yourself for an even worse time. A film about Jeremy Corbyn being shown or not shown does not change anything. We are f*cked. At least Corbyn had the balls to call it out.
I agree with a lot of this but the fact is a whole lot of people you have said are mostly f*cked under this government voted for them en masse in 2015 and 2019 leading to the situation now. Until the working classes wake up, and/or have someone they can connect with again, the status quo continues.

Corbyn wasn’t a bad bloke but he failed in this area, that’s indisputable. The people he was “helping” largely just didn’t like him.
 
While I agree totally with your post, viv
Corbyn stood absolutely no chance of ever becoming PM. Or will anyone like him succeed. The system operates to stop that ever happening.
Starmer fits the bill, he will be ok for the next election. You don’t get anymore establishment than ex DPP. He’s purged the left wing within the party, not only in the parliamentary group but they’re slowly expelling those with a sniff of the left on them, or even liking Tweets that are not approved by the NEC.
The boat is adjusted and on an even centrist keel.
The Establishment are happy and in the end that’s what matters.
It’s said that if you can get 3 million people on the streets demanding change it will happen.
Laws that don’t allow shouting on protests…don’t worry the protests will be banned soon.
All going great innit.
 
While I agree totally with your post, viv
Corbyn stood absolutely no chance of ever becoming PM. Or will anyone like him succeed. The system operates to stop that ever happening.
Starmer fits the bill, he will be ok for the next election. You don’t get anymore establishment than ex DPP. He’s purged the left wing within the party, not only in the parliamentary group but they’re slowly expelling those with a sniff of the left on them, or even liking Tweets that are not approved by the NEC.
The boat is adjusted and on an even centrist keel.
The Establishment are happy and in the end that’s what matters.
It’s said that if you can get 3 million people on the streets demanding change it will happen.
Laws that don’t allow shouting on protests…don’t worry the protests will be banned soon.
All going great innit.
And this is why I disagree with those who say 'well that failed, nothing to do now but get behind Starmer'. For me it is imperative that the fight goes on for future generations. There is no quick fit, and what some see as a holding tactic, I see as acquiescence of the drift to the right.
 
While I agree totally with your post, viv
Corbyn stood absolutely no chance of ever becoming PM. Or will anyone like him succeed. The system operates to stop that ever happening.
Starmer fits the bill, he will be ok for the next election. You don’t get anymore establishment than ex DPP. He’s purged the left wing within the party, not only in the parliamentary group but they’re slowly expelling those with a sniff of the left on them, or even liking Tweets that are not approved by the NEC.
The boat is adjusted and on an even centrist keel.
The Establishment are happy and in the end that’s what matters.
It’s said that if you can get 3 million people on the streets demanding change it will happen.
Laws that don’t allow shouting on protests…don’t worry the protests will be banned soon.
All going great innit.
This is how it is...... democracy my @rse
 
It is censorship.

Glastonbury have a cinema showing a whole range of films, some cutting edge, lefty, arty etc - i believe its called the Pilton Palais.

i read that someone said that 'glastonbury has lost its soul' over this - it lost its meaning and soul around 1990 - now its just a white middleclass debenture and rite of passage - disgusting place - no different to the Henley Regatta.

nice to see 'King Rocker' is being shown - one of our own is in that little celluloid !.

Disgusting? 😂
Il remember that today. I’m here and we are having a great time with friends already. In fact I am off to the Pilton Palace tonight to see a special edition of the original Wicker Man.
 
They have asked them not to show it and they've complied. Censorship would surely have resulted in the legal banning of the film?

When Chubby Brown gigs are pulled is that censorship?
If its the local authority making the decision, I think it definitely would be, but in this case its a commercial entity ie Glastonbury.

Some might argue its not within the spirit of Glastonbury, but given the films criticisms of JC I actually think it is - peace and love and all that.
 
Haven't seen the film, so there may be some content that might make me change my mind, but in my opinion they should show the film. Glastonbury has a proud left wing tradition I want to continue.
 
This idea that people should move on and ‘let go of/get over Corbyn’ is misguided IMO. One thing that stands out to my mind is this - the people who make and watch these films, who call out the lies and inconsistencies of those now in charge of the Labour Party, who call out the disgraceful campaign waged against the previous Labour leader not just from the right-wing/Establishment media but from staff members actually inside the party, who in theory were supposed to working to ensure a Labour government would be elected but who were actually doing the opposite, they are doing those things in response to the direction the country has taken since 2010(if not 2008).

Corbyn was a figurehead for the anti-austerity movement, for the poor, for the disabled, for refugees, migrants, for public ownership, for wealth redistribution, for social housing, for the homeless. This movement has been growing and growing and growing in the UK for years and years. The establishment media were not just trashing him, they were trashing opposing voices of any kind. They have been crushing the left into the ground for years. They will crush the poor, the left, black people, gay people, women, the disabled, immigrants, trans people. They will crush the opposition, any dissent. They will crush the unions.

Corbyn may be gone now but these groups, movements, this anger, this need for change and for something better, still exists and continues to grow. People are still striking, protesting, organising, marching, standing up, fighting. The young were mobilised by Corbyn’s policies, not necessarily the man himself. You put anyone up there saying what Corbyn said and a lot of people will follow.

This film being cancelled achieves nothing apart from showing us who really calls the shots. Pressure has been applied to the Glastonbury organisers and they have buckled. Those who champion free speech, from across the political and news spectrum, including Farage and Fox and McKenzie and O’Brien and Hartley-Brewer and Wootton, I’m sure they’ll be explaining why this film should be shown as planned.

The bottom line is the country is f*cked. Everybody knows it. The Tories know it, the Labour leaders know it. It needs radical change. It needs wealth redistribution and radical investment. There was a will to acknowledge and entertain and propose the ideas from the last Labour leader. There is none of that now. Which is why things will not get better.

And which is why people will still talk about what happened with Corbyn, because he was proposing something that would’ve made people’s lives better. Believe it or not, that matters to a lot of people. Until we have a government who governs on that basis, you’re just never going to get away from this sort of thing IMO.

You can ban or remove or shy away from showing this film all you want but you can’t ignore the facts. They’re all there in black and white. The rich are getting richer at a quicker rate than ever, tax avoidance and corruption is off the scale, prices and bills and mortgages and inflation are through the roof, the NHS is f*cked, the media is absolutely rotten to the core, services are cut to the bone, homelessness and child poverty is through the roof. Absolutely nothing works. Nothing at all.

Until someone in public life acknowledges these things then brace yourself for an even worse time. A film about Jeremy Corbyn being shown or not shown does not change anything. We are f*cked. At least Corbyn had the balls to call it out.
Best post this side of some of the stuff A.M posts but he has been quite for a while. Well done Viv.
 
Haven't seen the film, so there may be some content that might make me change my mind, but in my opinion they should show the film. Glastonbury has a proud left wing tradition I want to continue.
Anti-semitism isn't usually what I'd call Left wing. Now, I'm not saying the film IS anti-semitic (not seen it), but you can see why they've pulled it if they're concerned it is, for the very reason you cite in this post.
 
Anti-semitism isn't usually what I'd call Left wing. Now, I'm not saying the film IS anti-semitic (not seen it), but you can see why they've pulled it if they're concerned it is, for the very reason you cite in this post.
The film is narrated by a Jew (Alexei Sayle) and features Jewish Labour members. This is a successful move by Zionist groups to silence left wing Jews; those that are anti Israel, pro Palestinian or pro Corbyn. The BoD and Labour friends of Israel have far too much influence, and remember that not all Jews are Zionists and not all Zionists are Jews. To be a member of Labour friends of Israel you do not have to be a Labour party member or a Jew but you do have to be a Zionist.
 
The film is narrated by a Jew (Alexei Sayle) and features Jewish Labour members. This is a successful move by Zionist groups to silence left wing Jews; those that are anti Israel, pro Palestinian or pro Corbyn. The BoD and Labour friends of Israel have far too much influence, and remember that not all Jews are Zionists and not all Zionists are Jews. To be a member of Labour friends of Israel you do not have to be a Labour party member or a Jew but you do have to be a Zionist.
Agree with every word of that post. Zionists are having more and more influence on society.
 
The film is narrated by a Jew (Alexei Sayle) and features Jewish Labour members. This is a successful move by Zionist groups to silence left wing Jews; those that are anti Israel, pro Palestinian or pro Corbyn. The BoD and Labour friends of Israel have far too much influence, and remember that not all Jews are Zionists and not all Zionists are Jews. To be a member of Labour friends of Israel you do not have to be a Labour party member or a Jew but you do have to be a Zionist.
Well as I say, I'm not saying its anti-semitic, but we live in a society where quite often opposite ends of an argument can both be widely deemed as the truth depending on who you ask, so organisations like Glasto (who may well want to be perceived as 'Left wing', whatever that means) may understandably think 'fck that, we'll just stick to music actually'.
 
Well as I say, I'm not saying its anti-semitic, but we live in a society where quite often opposite ends of an argument can both be widely deemed as the truth depending on who you ask, so organisations like Glasto (who may well want to be perceived as 'Left wing', whatever that means) may understandably think 'fck that, we'll just stick to music actually'.
This is bullying by Israel lobbyists who should have no influence on decisions like this. The Labour Party has been cowed into obedience and now so has Glastonbury - what was once a symbol of counter-culture. Who else has to back down before we say enough is enough?

We will soon reach the point where AntiSemitism loses its meaning because it is being cheapened by continuous conflation. Meanwhile, festival goers have been saved the trouble of being able to make up their own minds.
 
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