Gareth to Man U ???

We are told that managing an international side is miles different to managing a club side requiring different skills.
His club management was errrrrr - patchy.

In any other world he wouldn't be considered for such a big role

It's going to happen isn't it :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
Manure are a basket case. They've lost what they had under Fergie - a good solid base of British and Irish players, with a sprinkling of QUALITY foreign players. Now they just spend £50m standard on any average player, usually not good enough foreigners.

When Kane, Rice and Maddison were available in the Summer they should've been demanding to be front of the queue.

If I was Southgate, I would either pass on the job, or demand massive control of player recruitment, build from the back and drive out the massively overrated foreigners...... Sounds a bit right wing.
 
WilliamMunny said:
I think he is exactly what Man Utd need, i.e. somebody who can build a "team" out of egocentric millionaires. That is his greatest achievement with England, the ability to foster a team spirit and togetherness I've not seen with England in 30 years.

As for the perception of negativity, that will be quickly dispelled once his team is scoring lots of goals, just as his England team has always done.
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spot on. People think it's the easy bit to get team spirit, a bond, get the bad eggs out the door. But it's probably harder than getting players to creatively pass. Personally I feel he should go to europe. He would be out of the spotlight of the poisonous british media, and has the mentality to take on board another culture. If it's here, then maybe Man U will be a good fit, they've had a long period of under achievement. New board, new stadium, new manager could all come together and achieve something. they've got a lot of underachieving bad eggs that need sorting first though
 
SmogOnTheTees said:
Manure are a basket case. They've lost what they had under Fergie - a good solid base of British and Irish players, with a sprinkling of QUALITY foreign players. Now they just spend £50m standard on any average player, usually not good enough foreigners.

When Kane, Rice and Maddison were available in the Summer they should've been demanding to be front of the queue.
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to a degree yes. But Kane was never going to be sold to an english team, Rice was a rediculous fee, Maddison, that's probably the one area they were stacked in the squad.
 
SmogOnTheTees said:
Manure are a basket case. They've lost what they had under Fergie - a good solid base of British and Irish players, with a sprinkling of QUALITY foreign players. Now they just spend £50m standard on any average player, usually not good enough foreigners.

When Kane, Rice and Maddison were available in the Summer they should've been demanding to be front of the queue.

If I was Southgate, I would either pass on the job, or demand massive control of player recruitment, build from the back and drive out the massively overrated foreigners...... Sounds a bit right wing.
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Radtcliffe will turn them round. I think they will have a couple of turbulent years ahead but within 2 or 3 seasons he'll have them back towards the top.
 
BoroMart said:
It was also pushed on him too early and 15 years ago. He's grown massively since then
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Oh, I agree
But in any world other than football it would still be a non starter.

He is still effectively a novice at club level

The whole Man U dynastic approach is the issue here.
When Busby stepped down - he got a place of honour, frequently attended meetings and was asked advice by the board casting a shadow over every manager since. It took ages for them to sort that.
They have done exactly the same with fergie

Contrast Liverpool - they leave, they move on and don't hang around like a bad smell.
 
Bet Trippier and Henderson are sat next to their phones waiting for their agents confirm their moves....
 
Most of the man u fans will be supporting city
B_G said:
Like all football fans they'll be fine with winning football.
Whoever manages United will be judged on their results and honours.
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Most of the man u fans will be supporting city soon. Love city supported them man and boy! yeah right.
 
1finny said:
And, like England under Southgate - win nothing in 7 years (possibly 8)
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I think that's a bit harsh on Southgate to be fair.
Over achieved with what he had in 2018 WC getting to the semi-final
Beaten on penalties in 2020 Euro final
Beaten by tournament favorites in QF in 2022 World Cup. We were probably the better team that day just didn't get the result.

It's tournament football. Very very fine margins. He hasn't been going into these tournaments with the best squad but the expectation to win is always there for England.

I do think we are going into these Euros with a very strong squad and is a good opportunity to win it. Southgate has a lot of big tournament experience and I am confident he will deliver this summer.
 
B_G said:
I think that's a bit harsh on Southgate to be fair.
Over achieved with what he had in 2018 WC getting to the semi-final
Beaten on penalties in 2020 Euro final
Beaten by tournament favorites in QF in 2022 World Cup. We were probably the better team that day just didn't get the result.

It's tournament football. Very very fine margins. He hasn't been going into these tournaments with the best squad but the expectation to win is always there for England.

I do think we are going into these Euros with a very strong squad and is a good opportunity to win it. Southgate has a lot of big tournament experience and I am confident he will deliver this summer.
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Yeah, in hindsight - I agree
Was a bit of an asre in my response to BM - which I now regret 😞
 
B_G said:
Over achieved with what he had in 2018 WC getting to the semi-final
Beaten on penalties in 2020 Euro final
Beaten by tournament favorites in QF in 2022 World Cup. We were probably the better team that day just didn't get the result.
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sport on. 2018 we had Henderson, Alli and Lindgaard as our midfield. That's pretty poor, but was the best we had at the time. No wonder Modric, Rakatic and Brozovic had our pants down . They are just arguably levels above in quality.

2020 - You can't get closer than a penalty final defeat

2022 - I studied the game after, made a little montage of the fouls that the french were allowed to get away with. the late tackles on Saka were appalling. It was fine margins again, Kane puts the penalty away and I think we make it to the final. No shame in losing to france though, best side in teh world and they needed a missed pen, and a bad ref to get through
 
B_G said:
I do think we are going into these Euros with a very strong squad and is a good opportunity to win it. Southgate has a lot of big tournament experience and I am confident he will deliver this summer.
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I've got a ticket for the final, I'm really hoping we do it this time, please, please, please I'm going to sacrifice a shirt to the football gods before the tournament kicks off. would be unreal to see my team lift a trophy for the first time in 20 years. I might just have enough life left in for a Boro FA cup in my 70s at this rate
 
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