For 5 years it has been a tough watch

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PhillySpecial

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to try and see us create chances and score goals. We go into every single game having no idea what performance to expect but knowing one thing - it is going to be a hard slog watching us try to create some decent chances. At least under Karanka's championship team (where we didn't exactly score a ton of goals compared to the other teams around us) we could see the shape and knew what to expect each game. We had 2 really good chances today against pretty much the bottom team, and that was it. The rest was a slog.

I really do not know where to point the finger. Different managers have come and gone, players, systems and shape. The one common denominator is we haven't had a decent, technical central midfielder who can control a game and switch defence into attack quickly.

I give so much credit to the fans that go week in week out under the circumstances I mentioned.
 
PhillySpecial said:
to try and see us create chances and score goals. We go into every single game having no idea what performance to expect but knowing one thing - it is going to be a hard slog watching us try to create some decent chances. At least under Karanka's championship team (where we didn't exactly score a ton of goals compared to the other teams around us) we could see the shape and knew what to expect each game. We had 2 really good chances today against pretty much the bottom team, and that was it. The rest was a slog.

I really do not know where to point the finger. Different managers have come and gone, players, systems and shape. The one common denominator is we haven't had a decent, technical central midfielder who can control a game and switch defence into attack quickly.

I give so much credit to the fans that go week in week out under the circumstances I mentioned.
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Think Payero was supposed to be that midfielder you are talking about. We have yet to see anything from the lad apart from the strike that hit the bar against Blackpool and Warnock doesn't seem to want to know him. What a mysterious clusterf*ck of a start to the season its been.
 
It's often said that any team in the Championship can beat any other side.
Do Boro have to keep bending over backwards to prove this every week ?
 
We've had Pulis and Warnock as managers in that time. Neither are known for free flowing, free scoring football. It's not that much of a mystery really. Appoint that style of manager and you're going to struggle to create and score goals.
 
festa5 said:
We've had Pulis and Warnock as managers in that time. Neither are known for free flowing, free scoring football. It's not that much of a mystery really. Appoint that style of manager and you're going to struggle to create and score goals.
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I'm not even concerned about free-flowing football... just give me some shots on goal or something to get excited about. This is football. How many times have our shots on goal stats looked ridiculous?
 
We still haven't replaced Ramirez. If Monk had have had the sense to bring in a no10 following relegation, instead of his ridiculous plan to try and fit as many strikers into the team as possible, we'd have gone straight back up.

Here we are, five years down the line and we're still without one.

Payero could yet be the answer but I can't see Warnock giving him a proper chance playing in that role.
 
PhillySpecial said:
to try and see us create chances and score goals. We go into every single game having no idea what performance to expect but knowing one thing - it is going to be a hard slog watching us try to create some decent chances. At least under Karanka's championship team (where we didn't exactly score a ton of goals compared to the other teams around us) we could see the shape and knew what to expect each game. We had 2 really good chances today against pretty much the bottom team, and that was it. The rest was a slog.

I really do not know where to point the finger. Different managers have come and gone, players, systems and shape. The one common denominator is we haven't had a decent, technical central midfielder who can control a game and switch defence into attack quickly.

I give so much credit to the fans that go week in week out under the circumstance
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Recruitment has been poor for a long time, I don’t think we have signed a decent player for a long time now. In football nowadays does a manager go to his chairman and say I want that player, or is there a recruitment team choosing players, either way we don’t to be very good at it.
 
parmoboy said:
We still haven't replaced Ramirez. If Monk had have had the sense to bring in a no10 following relegation, instead of his ridiculous plan to try and fit as many strikers into the team as possible, we'd have gone straight back up.

Here we are, five years down the line and we're still without one.

Payero could yet be the answer but I can't see Warnock giving him a proper chance playing in that role.
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We still haven’t replaced Leadbitter either.
 
I said it before and I think the point still stands. We have two factions at the club now and their philosophies are completely different. Warnock and his coaches want a physical side of battlers with pacy wide men, and the new recruitment team are signing technical players instead. It's not going to work and I think Warnock is the one that's going to end up out of the club.
 
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Our problem still seems to be the wide attacking positions, albeit Hernandez is out and who knows when Ameobi will be fit, if ever.

We've not had real talent in those positions for what, 5/6 years?
 
The Championship is very competitive - what people have wrote on here it what is experienced by most fans. I would agree as a club we have not been very clever with what he had financial since 2016 and this is toughest spell since Woody left, but is changing your manager every 15 months the solution?

Fulham who have a budget far above ours have just lost at home to Reading and convincely at Coventry and at Blackpool.
 
For 15 years Gibson gave us the best period in the clubs history, we saw a cup win, European football, World class players and we were a household name in the top flight.

However since our relegation under Southgate in 2009 we've seen 1 promotion, 1 relegation and then about 8 seasons of absolute dross. This can't be too far away from one of the worst periods in the clubs history.
 
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Uwefuchs said:
For 15 years Gibson gave us the best period in the clubs history, we saw a cup win, European football, World class players and we were a household name in the top flight.

However since our relegation under Southgate in 2009 we've seen 1 promotion, 1 relegation and then about 8 seasons of about dross. This can't be too far away from one of the worst periods in the clubs history.
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We’ve certainly lost our way.
 
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