Footballers and managers hugging and embracing on and around the pitch.

I posted this thread as my reaction to the irresponsible behaviour of footballers and managers. Not the government’s response, I don’t care about the government’s response.

The post was about individuals taking responsibility for their actions

It was made very clear to footballers how they had to behave if football was to be recommenced.

Blaming the government is taking that responsibility away from people in football and seemingly accepting what they are doing.
 
I don't particularly feel that strongly about this as an isolated case, but I do find it interesting.

The "players can't be expected to control themselves" argument is laughable, but also a perfect example of why people get turned off by football and footballers. It's partly why diving and gamesmanship are tolerated more than it is in any other sport and why referees are treated with such a lack of respect.

Out of all elite athletes, footballers seem to be the ones who are treated as uncontrollable giant children. It's absolute bollox.

If anything with no fans there I'd have thought they'd be less inclined to over celebrate anyway. Must feel weird and artificial a big goal celebration in front of an empty stadium surely?
 
I posted this thread as my reaction to the irresponsible behaviour of footballers and managers. Not the government’s response, I don’t care about the government’s response.

The post was about individuals taking responsibility for their actions

It was made very clear to footballers how they had to behave if football was to be recommenced.

Blaming the government is taking that responsibility away from people in football and seemingly accepting what they are doing.
For sure and I agree, not having a crack at you or anyone else mate. I just think people getting upset over this is missing the point by miles, footballers celebrating together will have a less than zero effect on the transmission of COVID-19.

I also think it's hypocritical because most footballers probably don't really want to be there, I know I wouldn't. But the government and FA have put them through loads of hoops to make them perform for our entertainment, one of the few fun things we can watch during lockdown. So criticising them, which loads of ministers have done repeatedly, is really unfair.

Huge difference between players having massive house parties during a pandemic, and celebrating on the pitch.

On the comment above: if I score in 5 a side I celebrate like I've won the World Cup, we all do. If I was getting paid 150k a week to win football matches I'd celebrate even more. Just seems absurd to me to try and train that out of them.

Edit: And no-one's playing COVID-positive, so no-one's transmitting the virus on the pitch. They're tested all the time.
 
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As has been mentioned. It is either safe to play, or it is not. Marking at corners - fine, a hug after a goal - bad, and sending the wrong message. They are all tested every couple of days. I thought the whole point was they were in their 'bubble' with no cases so couldn't give it to each other?

Managers from opposing teams hugging and chatting (I noticed Mourinho and Parker had a jolly chat with an arm around the shoulder pre-kick off) needs stamping out.

But for in play contact, if they are that bothered stop football being played.

I'd be much more in favour of footballers, minor celebrities, pop stars, politicians and news readers who break actual lockdown rules out in public being taken to task and punished.

Footballers who have broken the lockdown rules is easy. barred from all club activities, training ground etc. for a minimum of 14 days.

No exceptions.
 
For sure and I agree, not having a crack at you or anyone else mate. I just think people getting upset over this is missing the point by miles, footballers celebrating together will have a less than zero effect on the transmission of COVID-19.

I also think it's hypocritical because most footballers probably don't really want to be there, I know I wouldn't. But the government and FA have put them through loads of hoops to make them perform for our entertainment, one of the few fun things we can watch during lockdown. So criticising them, which loads of ministers have done repeatedly, is really unfair.

Huge difference between players having massive house parties during a pandemic, and celebrating on the pitch.

On the comment above: if I score in 5 a side I celebrate like I've won the World Cup, we all do. If I was getting paid 150k a week to win football matches I'd celebrate even more. Just seems absurd to me to try and train that out of them.

Edit: And no-one's playing COVID-positive, so no-one's transmitting the virus on the pitch. They're tested all the time.

Who celebrates in 5 a side? I must've played thousands of games over the years from daft kickabouts to competitive leagues, I've never seen anyone do a full celebration. You might get a "get in" or a fist pump but that's about it. There's certainly no mass hugging going on. Be bloody weird if anyone celebrated more than that.

We most certainly do not all celebrate like we've won the world cup. Some games there's 20+ goals scored, you'd never spend any time playing. Not to mention the cringe factor.
 
Neil Warnock has asked the players to come up with a way to celebrate in a socially distanced way. He has put Tav in charge
 
Sport is the governments distraction from Covid and they use criticism of players to divert attention from themselves, imagine if politicians had the same scrutiny of their performances as footballers, would make for interesting viewing.

I think the continuation of sport gives sense to a normality that doesn’t really exist anymore and is in part to why people have become more relaxed, it can’t be a crisis if the football is on, mentality.
 
There is guidance in place , for good reasons, and it is increasingly being breached.

I have heard at leat two Prem managers come out and say players are probably not able to stick to the guidance, goal scoring is so emotional etc...

What a load of rubbish.

They will get away with what ever they are able to and managers should be placing those expectations upon them, not justifying none adherence.

I believe that players have a social responsibility to set an example. Our country is in a very dangerous situation with Covid and they should be doing all they can to improve the situation, not exacerbate it.

Football should be pulled if they are not prepared to stick to the basic requirements. Assuming their behaviour doesn’t spread such infection levels that it becomes none viable anyway......
Can someone explain why Pep Guardiola feels it necessary to continually spit? Also why do goalkeepers spit so much?
 
Who celebrates in 5 a side? I must've played thousands of games over the years from daft kickabouts to competitive leagues, I've never seen anyone do a full celebration. You might get a "get in" or a fist pump but that's about it. There's certainly no mass hugging going on. Be bloody weird if anyone celebrated more than that.

We most certainly do not all celebrate like we've won the world cup. Some games there's 20+ goals scored, you'd never spend any time playing. Not to mention the cringe factor.
Would echo that regarding celebrating in 5 a side, I think someone who celebrated every goal wouldn’t be asked back.

Even playing Sunday and Saturday league games, goals are celebrated with some high fives and thumbs when I’ve played. Certainly no mass piles ons and hugging.
 
It's been getting more and more relaxed over the past two months, increasingly noticeable with managerial handshakes at the final whistle... unless you're one of the backroom team sat on the bench, of course, dressed like you're a medical responder at Chernobyl.
 
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