Norfolkred1
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Will this cause further panic for Covid tests due to some side effects of getting the jab.
What side effects? As far as I'm aware you can't 'get' the flu from the n modern vaccine?Will this cause further panic for Covid tests due to some side effects of getting the jab.
I think this is true, have to remember that there's probably a lot more research teams working on this though.Not quite on topic but I was reading an article this morning about the dangers of rushing through a vaccine which some of you may find interesting. Below is an extract from it.
"It is worth remembering the dangers of another fast mass vaccination programme in a time of pandemic panic. In February 1976, an army recruit at Fort Dix, New Jersey died just a few hours after developing the symptoms of a flu-like illness. It took two weeks for the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) to identify the culprit: a strain of pig influenza. Just as in the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic, the virus had leapt from one species to another, swapping its genome and developing into a new strain. And, again like the 1918 influenza virus, it was an H1N1 type. An old enemy with new weapons.
Yet the recruit at Fort Dix had been nowhere near any swine, which meant the country was facing a novel virus with the ability to be transmitted from person to person. It was a pandemic champing at the bit. Some government advisers suggested ramping up a massive programme using a flu vaccine that had already been developed. Edwin Kilbourne, a virologist at the Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York, wanted it to begin immediately. ‘Better a vaccine without an epidemic,’ he wrote, ‘than an epidemic without a vaccine.’ Others advised caution. There had been only one death, vaccination programmes are costly, and the public’s reaction was uncertain.
The decision made its way through various levels of government bureaucracy and ultimately landed on the desk of President Gerald Ford. He was soon persuaded by those who favoured an immediate effort to vaccinate every man, woman and child. Flanked by the discoverers of the polio vaccine, Ford recalled the 1918 pandemic. ‘Some older Americans today will remember that 548,000 people died in this country during that tragic period,’ he said. ‘Let me state clearly at this time: no one knows exactly how serious this threat could be. Nevertheless, we cannot afford to take a chance with the health of our nation.’
The public health experts who had advised a more cautious approach did not do so for want of an effective vaccine. They did so because of the backlash that might occur when millions of people received it. Dr Hans Neumann from the New Haven Department of Health noted that, based on the projected scale of the immunisations, about 2,300 people would have a stroke within two days of getting a flu shot and 7,000 would have a heart attack. ‘Why?’ he asked. ‘Because that is the number statistically expected, flu shots or no flu shots.’ Likewise, in the week following, about 9,000 people would catch pneumonia and 900 would die — not as a consequence of the vaccine, but because those are the normal numbers every week. But the public would blame the vaccine.
It wasn’t long before Neumann’s fears were realised. Three elderly nursing home patients who received their vaccine died on the same day. There was a media frenzy, with one paper claiming the vaccine had been used as a weapon to kill the head of a crime family.
Ford tried to reassure the public by getting his flu shot on television. It made no difference. A rare neurological disease was then mistakenly linked to the vaccine, and the CDC had had enough. In December it halted the vaccination programme. Recriminations followed. The New York Times called it a ‘sorry debacle’. The head of the CDC was forced to resign. And this being America, lawsuits followed. Within four years 3,900 claims had been filed, seeking more than $3.5 billion in compensation.
Inoculating millions of people with a hastily developed Covid vaccine carries the same likelihood of public misunderstanding, even if — and this is the really sad part — the vaccine works and is safe. The 1976 fiasco shows the concerns people can have about a new vaccine. In a global pandemic, as countries compete to be the first to beat the virus, a misstep in the vaccine process could set back public trust and return us to what happened with swine flu in the 1970s."
The flu jab? Why not? It can't harm you and if the. Prediction about the strain is correct it may actually help you health wise.I've never had one and not really considered one.
has anyone had side effects? Ive never had the jab but am considering it this yearWhat side effects? As far as I'm aware you can't 'get' the flu from the n modern vaccine?
Never understood why people don't get it, isn't still free in the UK?
It might give you a bit of a sore arm where you get the jab and a bit of a sore throat, but that's about it.has anyone had side effects? Ive never had the jab but am considering it this year
Any side effects better than the alternative.No side effects from flu vaccine - it doesn't contain any flu virus.
issue is, will there be a greater demand this year?Oh well there you are. The announcement of free innoculations to the over 50s was no doubt made well after stocks were ordered. Don't they order in nearly a year in advance?