Fiona Bruce

[Quicksilvera]

When the Domestic Abuse survivors are concerned at the language used by the celebrity face of their Charity then she was right to step down.

She can continue to donate and support but she can not be the face of the Charity

“But it was only once” that can be her slogan.

 

[Jedi boro]

I’d go

or her deep seated true blue tribal loyalty.

With this as it’s very revealing as you say.

 

[Colgates_shaving_foam]

What a pathetic post.

Wow, quite the witty rejoinder there

 

[dooderooni]

What a pathetic post.

I disagree.
Given the work she's done with Refuge over the years and her being a professional TV presenter, you would expect that she would have both the knowledge of the subject and awareness of the power of her words and not chosen to add the comment during a live broadcast. If it actually was a pre-prepared answer then her work with Refuge should have made her question it before the programme even started.
She's either guilty of extremely poor judgement or of bias and I think Refuge have done the right thing by asking her to step back from her ambassadorial role.

 

[Randy]

When the Domestic Abuse survivors are concerned at the language used by the celebrity face of their Charity then she was right to step down.

She can continue to donate and support but she can not be the face of the Charity

Exactly.

But some of the language used towards her is also dangerous. We've seen attacks on sitting MP's and celebrities in the past, stoked from online and social language.

 

[boroboy6872]

“But it was only once” that can be her slogan.

She should never have read the pre written statement and she should have questioned the content of it.

She didn`t and that is an oversight that will live with her for a good while

She may wear a blue rosette but I doubt she is in favour of domestic abuse

 

[Quicksilvera]

Exactly.

But some of the language used towards her is also dangerous. We've seen attacks on sitting MP's and celebrities in the past, stoked from online and social language.

It’s not dangerous, it’s people correctly calling her out for defending Stanley F***ing Johnson.

 

[Randy]

It’s not dangerous, it’s people correctly calling her out for defending Stanley F***ing Johnson.

I get that but using words like 'scum' fan the flames.

 

[Quicksilvera]

I get that but using words like 'scum' fan the flames.

Don’t be silly. She chose what side of the spectrum she wants to be on, she chose who’s domestic abuse she wants to stick up for, if that isn’t scummy then I don’t know what is.

 

[Randy]

Don’t be silly. She chose what side of the spectrum she wants to be on, she chose who’s domestic abuse she wants to stick up for, if that isn’t scummy then I don’t know what is.

So seen as though you find potential violence towards celebrities and politicians 'funny', what would you think of someone calling the shopkeeper who beat up the bloke trying to burgle his shop scum?

 

[Quicksilvera]

So seen as though you find potential violence towards celebrities and politicians 'funny', what would you think of someone calling the shopkeeper who beat up the bloke trying to burgle his shop scum?

I see what you’re doing, so much whataboutery. You have form for that.

 

[Johngannonsunderpants]

Getting some comeuppance reference her Stanley Johnson comments on domestic abuse. She’s had to step down from her refuge charity role.

She’s scum.

Scum's a bit much like

 

[Quicksilvera]

Scum's a bit much like

Not in my opinion, go and watch question time back. In fact go and watch most of them with her in the chair.

 

[zzzzz]

Scum's a bit much like

Trivialising a man breaking a woman's nose and putting her in hospital because it was only once......... that the opinion of scum.

 

[Archiestephens_elbow]

I get that but using words like 'scum' fan the flames.

If the cap fits

 

[Randy]

I see what you’re doing, so much whataboutery. You have form for that.

Avoiding the answer then as it doesn't suit your crusade.

Bruce has been rightly asked to step down from her role with Refuge, will probably be asked to do something similar at the BBC but you wouldn't be happy until you saw her swinging.

You must be old enough and wise enough to know that a snowball effect can occur from the use of words like that?

Look at the horrific murder of Jo Cox, the following taken from Wikipedia.

The perpetrator of the attack was Thomas Alexander Mair, a 53-year-old unemployed gardener born in Scotland. Mair had mental health problems, though he was declared sane in the moment of the crime.

He believed individuals of liberal and left-wing political viewpoints, and the mainstream media, were the cause of the world's problems.

Guardian writers suggested that he targeted Cox, a "passionate defender" of the European Union and immigration, because he saw her as "one of 'the collaborators' a traitor" to white people.


Ultimately, politics in this country has dissolved into blue and red trying to score points against each other without any clear plan from either side as to how they will SERVE the people who put them into these positions of power. Using words like scum and wishing bad things against blues, reds, yellows etc (and there have been plenty of examples of such on here these past 12 months) does nothing but create more radical people like Thomas Mair.

 

[Quicksilvera]

Avoiding the answer then as it doesn't suit your crusade.

Bruce has been rightly asked to step down from her role with Refuge, will probably be asked to do something similar at the BBC but you wouldn't be happy until you saw her swinging.

You must be old enough and wise enough to know that a snowball effect can occur from the use of words like that?

Look at the horrific murder of Jo Cox, the following taken from Wikipedia.

The perpetrator of the attack was Thomas Alexander Mair, a 53-year-old unemployed gardener born in Scotland. Mair had mental health problems, though he was declared sane in the moment of the crime.

He believed individuals of liberal and left-wing political viewpoints, and the mainstream media, were the cause of the world's problems.

Guardian writers suggested that he targeted Cox, a "passionate defender" of the European Union and immigration, because he saw her as "one of 'the collaborators' a traitor" to white people.


Ultimately, politics in this country had dissolved into blue and red trying to score points against each other without any clear plan from either side as to how they will SERVE the people who put them into these positions of power. Using words like scum and wishing bad things against blues, reds, yellows etc (and there have been plenty of examples of such on here these past 12 months) does nothing but create more radical people like Thomas Mair.

That’s a serious clutch, classic whataboutery and deflection technique from a Tory. Classic Randy behaviour.

 

[Randy]

That’s a serious clutch, classic whataboutery technique from a Tory. Classic Randy behaviour.

How is it whataboutery? I've given you an example of how your dangerous language can lead to serious scenarios. Instead of debating them you resort to calling people Tories.
You know **** all about me, there are plenty of folk on here and who are no longer on here who know plenty about me, including both admins. Upset a few folk during the pandemic too, if you'd been around during that time you'd see I'm probably more anti Tory anything than you are.

 

[Unravel_Morrison]

How is it whataboutery? I've given you an example of how your dangerous language can lead to serious scenarios. Instead of debating them you resort to calling people Tories.
You know **** all about me, there are plenty of folk on here and who are no longer on here who know plenty about me, including both admins. Upset a few folk during the pandemic too, if you'd been around during that time you'd see I'm probably more anti Tory anything than you are.

You've already agreed that what she did/said was wrong. It's just the degree to which people are upset.

All she needed to do and she is an experienced presenter and journalist, is say "I've been asked to point out......" That's it, nothing more.

Not sure why the lawyers were so keen to get involved. Its well documented that he used to regularly beat her. He isn't suing anyone over this regardless.

 

[Quicksilvera]

How is it whataboutery? I've given you an example of how your dangerous language can lead to serious scenarios. Instead of debating them you resort to calling people Tories.
You know **** all about me, there are plenty of folk on here and who are no longer on here who know plenty about me, including both admins. Upset a few folk during the pandemic too, if you'd been around during that time you'd see I'm probably more anti Tory anything than you are.

This thread is about the language used by Fiona Bruce in her defence of Stanley de feffel, using her platform to stick up for the corrupt, racist tories. If I think she is scum then I will call her scum. Do I want to murder her or want her murdered? Of course not. Do I want her held accountable by the BBC for her language? Yes. Stop with the whataboutery and deflection. If you want to discuss your points then please start a thread and I will be happy to engage.