FA to Scrap FA Cup Replays

Zoophonic said:
Replays are the essence of the FA Cup
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I think it depends on the teams involved, a minnow taking a big team to their tin shed, or getting a glamorous payday at Old Trafford is.

Middle of the road champo or PL teams having an extra game against each other probably less so.
 
Absolute **** from the fa . If a small l1 or lower league club draws premier league opposition and forces them to a home replay , that is a massive bit of income for that club

Won’t harm the top clubs but will harm smaller ones . They are fine with replays anyway , English clubs are dominating Europe . There is no justification for scrapping them
 
And who here actually watches any of these replays? Can’t say i ever have unless Boro were involved. Surely a minnow taking a big team to penalties and into the next round is more of an incentive than taking a team back to Old Trafford to get spanked 4-0.
Archaic practice thats finally going
 
Boroboyyo said:
West Ham won the europa cup, Man City just won the champions league . England has just dominated the European comps so there’s no justification for it
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There was only one replay involving a Premier League team last season.

22/23: Fulham beat Sunderland in the replay.

There were no replays in the previous 2 seasons because of Covid.

2019/20: Newcastle hammered Rochdale in the replay, Tranmere beat Watford in extra time, Tottenham beat Middlesbrough comfortably, Newcastle beat Oxford, Liverpool beat Shrewsbury.

2018/19: Derby beat Southampton on penalties, Newcastle beat Blackburn in extra time, West Brom beat Brighton in extra time, Wolves beat Shrewsbury.

2017/18: Leicester beat Fleetwood, Wigan beat Bournemouth, Norwich beat Chelsea on penalties, West Ham beat Shrewsbury in extra time, Huddersfield beat Birmingham in extra time, Swansea annihilated Notts County, Tottenham beat Newport, Swansea beat Sheffield Wednesday, Tottenham annihilated Rochdale,

2016/17: Newcastle beat Birmingham, Crystal Palace beat Bolton, Southampton beat Norwich, Liverpool beat Plymouth, Leicester beat Derby, Man City destroyed Huddersfield.

So in the last 5 seasons involving PL replays, there have been 26 replays, only 5 lower league teams won those replays (in bold), and only one did it in regular time.
Only two of those clubs were from a division lower than the Championship.
The lower league clubs would have just as much chance of winning in extra time of a one-off match.

There have been absolutely loads of giant killings in that same period, so I'm not seeing how replays have added significantly to the chances of the underdog getting a result.
Quite the opposite, it largely led to the Premier League team saving face, and on the rare occasions where they did win, it's largely because of the extra time that the replays had prevented in the first place.
 
TBH I don't really care about replays. I do want the FA cup final to be played on Saturday at 3pm and the semi finals to both be played on the same day and to be on the BBC. I also want Liverpool to have to play 16 preliminary rounds before being entered into the competition as I think jurgen klopp is an **** and want them to play as many games as possible.
 
TeaCider said:
There was only one replay involving a Premier League team last season.

22/23: Fulham beat Sunderland in the replay.

There were no replays in the previous 2 seasons because of Covid.

2019/20: Newcastle hammered Rochdale in the replay, Tranmere beat Watford in extra time, Tottenham beat Middlesbrough comfortably, Newcastle beat Oxford, Liverpool beat Shrewsbury.

2018/19: Derby beat Southampton on penalties, Newcastle beat Blackburn in extra time, West Brom beat Brighton in extra time, Wolves beat Shrewsbury.

2017/18: Leicester beat Fleetwood, Wigan beat Bournemouth, Norwich beat Chelsea on penalties, West Ham beat Shrewsbury in extra time, Huddersfield beat Birmingham in extra time, Swansea annihilated Notts County, Tottenham beat Newport, Swansea beat Sheffield Wednesday, Tottenham annihilated Rochdale,

2016/17: Newcastle beat Birmingham, Crystal Palace beat Bolton, Southampton beat Norwich, Liverpool beat Plymouth, Leicester beat Derby, Man City destroyed Huddersfield.

So in the last 5 seasons involving PL replays, there have been 26 replays, only 5 lower league teams won those replays (in bold), and only one did it in regular time.
Only two of those clubs were from a division lower than the Championship.
The lower league clubs would have just as much chance of winning in extra time of a one-off match.

There have been absolutely loads of giant killings in that same period, so I'm not seeing how replays have added significantly to the chances of the underdog getting a result.
Quite the opposite, it largely led to the Premier League team saving face, and on the rare occasions where they did win, it's largely because of the extra time that the replays had prevented in the first place.
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The point you’re making has absolutely nothing to do with the point I’m making .

It’s nothing to do with the likelihood of an underdog win, it’s the money lower league teams make from a replay . Full houses , extra merchandise sales are invaluable to clubs that have no premier league money to fall back on .

I remember Exeter drew with Man U at old Trafford a long time ago to earn a replay . Man Utd won the replay , but Exeter earned a **** ton from the replay .

This diminishes that chance
 
Boroboyyo said:
The point you’re making has absolutely nothing to do with the point I’m making .

It’s nothing to do with the likelihood of an underdog win, it’s the money lower league teams make from a replay . Full houses , extra merchandise sales are invaluable to clubs that have no premier league money to fall back on .

I remember Exeter drew with Man U at old Trafford a long time ago to earn a replay . Man Utd won the replay , but Exeter earned a **** ton from the replay .

This diminishes that chance
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They shouldn't be invaluable.
If a club needs a potential FA Cup replay that they can't actually guarantee to sustain themselves, their business model isn't working.

That's not a selling point for replays, it's an indictment of the state of football finances.
 
TeaCider said:
There was only one replay involving a Premier League team last season.

22/23: Fulham beat Sunderland in the replay.

There were no replays in the previous 2 seasons because of Covid.

2019/20: Newcastle hammered Rochdale in the replay, Tranmere beat Watford in extra time, Tottenham beat Middlesbrough comfortably, Newcastle beat Oxford, Liverpool beat Shrewsbury.

2018/19: Derby beat Southampton on penalties, Newcastle beat Blackburn in extra time, West Brom beat Brighton in extra time, Wolves beat Shrewsbury.

2017/18: Leicester beat Fleetwood, Wigan beat Bournemouth, Norwich beat Chelsea on penalties, West Ham beat Shrewsbury in extra time, Huddersfield beat Birmingham in extra time, Swansea annihilated Notts County, Tottenham beat Newport, Swansea beat Sheffield Wednesday, Tottenham annihilated Rochdale,

2016/17: Newcastle beat Birmingham, Crystal Palace beat Bolton, Southampton beat Norwich, Liverpool beat Plymouth, Leicester beat Derby, Man City destroyed Huddersfield.

So in the last 5 seasons involving PL replays, there have been 26 replays, only 5 lower league teams won those replays (in bold), and only one did it in regular time.
Only two of those clubs were from a division lower than the Championship.
The lower league clubs would have just as much chance of winning in extra time of a one-off match.

There have been absolutely loads of giant killings in that same period, so I'm not seeing how replays have added significantly to the chances of the underdog getting a result.
Quite the opposite, it largely led to the Premier League team saving face, and on the rare occasions where they did win, it's largely because of the extra time that the replays had prevented in the first place.
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The FA Cup starts in August, not January. Some of the best gates in lower league football come in cup replays. A much needed extra game to pull in a few hundred and fill the bars and cafes.
 
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