Extremely annoying things that try your patience

El Guapo said:
People who refuse to ‘merge in turn / zip merge’ when approaching roadworks resulting in tailbacks twice as long as necessary and miles of unused carriageway. Especially those who cleverly block both lanes in order to prevent it.

Instead of blocking out people who are driving to the rules of the Highway Code go read rule 134 of it and correct your driving !!!!! 🤬

this is topical for me as it happened today on the A689 at Wynyard.

on a similar vein, miles of set out traffic cones with sod all happening!!
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This gets me too. It's blatantly obvious that if you "zipper" and go one lane at a time into a merge it'll be the quickest way for everyone to get through. People who don't get this and as you say people who deliberately block the road need to realise this
 
SmallTown said:
That's why you need an EV. Not much call for coolant in them (they do have them, but sealed in the motors, never need topping up)
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Mate, I got to tell you that my wife and I had a great laugh with your " steam roller " response to my explanation, that she let me boot her
off the computer to let me reply, and with good reason.

Some years ago when I had come home after work and my wife asked me how my day was, I replied with " I made a c*ck of myself today "

I had been on a road resurfacing job and before work had started we had a tool box talk about the days proceedings.
Thinking that they were being conscientious, somebody asked about the arrival time of the bitumen and steamrollers.

There was a stunned silence for a short while until one of the bosses said " Steamrollers ? Effing hell mate, how old are you ?
There was an outbreak of laughter and even more so when somebody added " Effing hell mate, steamrollers died out with the dinosaur."

That somebody was me, and it was me that they were all laughing at , and that laughter went on for much longer than that one day.

Needless to say, that I'm thrilled to know that there is somebody out there that is old enough to remember steamrollers and I can
say to my wife " See, I'm not the only old c*ck around, somebody else remembers them!"
 
SmallTown said:
While we are at it: the 70 mph speed limit. Given it was introduced when cars were made of flimsy materials, had terrible brakes and bad tyres
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I'm inclined to agree, but what hasn't changed is the human speed of reaction, nor the stupidity of the average driver.
 
red_harrington said:
I'm inclined to agree, but what hasn't changed is the human speed of reaction, nor the stupidity of the average driver.
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That's true but the premise still stands. Even the most dim witted driver now can safely travel at 80-90.

Pretty much everything about vehicles that is to do with safety has improved by a dramatic amount since the speed limits were put in. The only thing that has got worse is weight and therefore momentum in a crash but its offset by everything else
 
There wasn't a question in the first place :)

At 70mph you will travel 100 miles in 1 hour 25 mins

At 80mph you will travel 100 miles in 1 hour 15 mins

So you'd save 10 mins.

Will 10 mins really increase productivity that much?

If so, is it really worth it at the expense of more fatalities and accidents on the road, which not only affects people and their families, but is a huge cost to productivity in itself?
 
red_harrington said:
There wasn't a question in the first place :)

At 70mph you will travel 100 miles in 1 hour 25 mins

At 80mph you will travel 100 miles in 1 hour 15 mins

So you'd save 10 mins.

Will 10 mins really increase productivity that much?

If so, is it really worth it at the expense of more fatalities and accidents on the road, which not only affects people and their families, but is a huge cost to productivity in itself?
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Yeah I get you. And people will also go "but accidents". I'm just saying if you think about it logically safety measures have been put in place for equipment that was so much less safe than it currently is. By an almost ridiculous amount car safety: from advanced brakes and tyres, improved handling, and significantly stronger. Not to mention safety systems such as lane keep assist and auto braking. The difference is staggering yet the restrictions haven't changed.
 
Billyzin said:
People driving two feet off your rear bumper.
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I had a transit van do this to me on a relatively empty A19 on the way to the match once. i was in the left lane and the right lane was free. i just took my foot off the accelerator they got the hint at just under 30MPH..
 
SmallTown said:
Yeah I get you. And people will also go "but accidents". I'm just saying if you think about it logically safety measures have been put in place for equipment that was so much less safe than it currently is. By an almost ridiculous amount car safety: from advanced brakes and tyres, improved handling, and significantly stronger. Not to mention safety systems such as lane keep assist and auto braking. The difference is staggering yet the restrictions haven't changed.
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That's right, and those safety measures have been put in place by the manufacturers due to demands from the consumer who is fed up with death & destruction on the roads.

Remove the restrictions and you're back to square one.
 
red_harrington said:
That's right, and those safety measures have been put in place by the manufacturers due to demands from the consumer who is fed up with death & destruction on the roads.

Remove the restrictions and you're back to square one.
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you're not though. because you have much safer cars
 
SmallTown said:
you're not though. because you have much safer cars
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What it boils down to is this:

a) The past: low speeds + low safety = high casualties

b) The present: low speeds + high safety = low casualties

But you want this:

c) High speeds + high safety - which can only be a regression back to (a) because safer cars does not mean less crashes

I used to drive fast, and I mean proper fast (I had sports cars) and I used to think like you do, but since then I've grown up a bit :)
 
Everything about driving, but mainly people not indicating. How did you ever get through a test without being taught how to do this?!?! Ill just sit at this roundabout for another ten minutes because you couldnt be arsed to stick an indicator on
 
red_harrington said:
What it boils down to is this:

a) The past: low speeds + low safety = high casualties

b) The present: low speeds + high safety = low casualties

But you want this:

c) High speeds + high safety - which can only be a regression back to (a) because safer cars does not mean less crashes

I used to drive fast, and I mean proper fast (I had sports cars) and I used to think like you do, but since then I've grown up a bit :)
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C. They do. With modern active safety
 
SmallTown said:
That's true but the premise still stands. Even the most dim witted driver now can safely travel at 80-90.

Pretty much everything about vehicles that is to do with safety has improved by a dramatic amount since the speed limits were put in. The only thing that has got worse is weight and therefore momentum in a crash but its offset by everything else
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Dont think you would want to be travelling at 90 on any motorway unless it was quiet, the amount of people who change lanes at the wrong time, often without looking would make this a disaster waiting to happen, plus the amount that still drive using their phones, or the ones travelling at 50. In reality it should be safe to travel 90/100 in modern cars, but it doesnt account for other peoples stupidity
 
There are two downsides to increased speeds.

Pollution, ICE cars will produce more pollution at higher revs, when at the time we are trying to reduce pollution. Even if you have an electric car it will reduce your range.

Speed differential, If lorries are restricted to 56mph and various small cars and motorbikes unable to go much faster. Then there is an obvious safety concern particularly in the wet or poor visibility. Also there are also a lot of older cars on the roads which dont have the modern safety aids.
 
redblood said:
Mate, I got to tell you that my wife and I had a great laugh with your " steam roller " response to my explanation, that she let me boot her
off the computer to let me reply, and with good reason.

Some years ago when I had come home after work and my wife asked me how my day was, I replied with " I made a c*ck of myself today "

I had been on a road resurfacing job and before work had started we had a tool box talk about the days proceedings.
Thinking that they were being conscientious, somebody asked about the arrival time of the bitumen and steamrollers.

There was a stunned silence for a short while until one of the bosses said " Steamrollers ? Effing hell mate, how old are you ?
There was an outbreak of laughter and even more so when somebody added " Effing hell mate, steamrollers died out with the dinosaur."

That somebody was me, and it was me that they were all laughing at , and that laughter went on for much longer than that one day.

Needless to say, that I'm thrilled to know that there is somebody out there that is old enough to remember steamrollers and I can
say to my wife " See, I'm not the only old c*ck around, somebody else remembers them!"
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Surely 'steamroller' is just the name used by a lot of people to describe the modern day equivalent? Even though they are no longer powered by steam.

So what should they be called?
(I'm only asking so I don't get laughed at by mucky faced workmen wearing yellow jackets by the side of the road).
Would 'big wheeled heavy squasher' be acceptable?
 
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