Exeter away - Ticket info

[InglebyUTB]

I don't know how the club takes it advice but I hope it isn't from anyone on the supporters forum, they seem more interested in keeping their warm seats available to them and little things like ticket availability and accessibility to general fans and regional fans are just nuisance subjects that maybe should have been bought up when it was more convenient to the poor little dears in the forum. Oh well I hope fans down here who can't get tickets still make a day and night of it in Exeter and Plymouth, I be getting in at Exeter but I might just lurking around the ground singing " Come on Boro at home park with probably a couple hundred more Boro.

I think it’s quite clear the forum only see’s things from the perspective of those sat on the forum. There’s no way that 1,300 tickets have gone to people on 150+ points who all intend to travel to Exeter midweek. I simply don’t believe it, and I know anecdotally it’s just not the the case.

If it was £27 there would be plenty of tickets left.

But someone around the table whether it be from the forum or the club must have surely pointed out when a subsidy was suggested that this would lead to the points sharks coming in and gobbling up the cheap tickets to bank the points.

I’m almost certain nobody there even thought about it.

I feel bad for the fans down there, people’s best intentions have screwed them over with unintended consequences.

 

[the_holgate_roof]

I think it’s quite clear the forum only see’s things from the perspective of those sat on the forum. There’s no way that 1,300 tickets have gone to people on 150+ points who all intend to travel to Exeter midweek. I simply don’t believe it, and I know anecdotally it’s just not the the case.

If it was £27 there would be plenty of tickets left.

But someone around the table whether it be from the forum or the club must have surely pointed out when a subsidy was suggested that this would lead to the points sharks coming in and gobbling up the cheap tickets to bank the points.

I’m almost certain nobody there even thought about it.

I feel bad for the fans down there, people’s best intentions have screwed them over with unintended consequences.

You say unintended consequences but it really isn’t rocket science to predict this outcome.

 

[exeterboro]

Exeter - you maybe should think again before posting that.

I appreciate what you do Rob, but just sometimes I feel your feet are to far under the club's table, when I opened up about tickets down here for regional supporters your response was to say I should have posted that a week earlier. Well I hadn't known at that time about the club's considering a price reduction on tickets, which would have great as long as the club as some other poster suggested closed priority points for this match, that might have been enough to push it too general sale. Sometimes Rob I just can't see how you are fighting the corner of the ordinary fan, whenever I have suggested that the club push other clubs to get tickets out earlier you have dismissed it, and hint that we should be able to sort it out with extensive advance notice, maybe we can't Rob, some fans don't have the knowledge that they will definitely get a ticket, I feel like a need a ticket in advance before I start booking accommodation, travel etc, I know I'm glad I never did for Plymouth, which even though it's a short distance for me is a big away weekend and I had planned to make the most of it, but you can't if the clubs are even following their guidelines for advance notice and sale.point taken Rob maybe I should taken this to messages, and maybe after this this what I do.

 

[InglebyUTB]

You say unintended consequences but it really isn’t rocket science to predict this outcome.

It was the first thing that came to mind when I heard it. Earlier in this thread when I predicted this would happen I was accused by other posters of just looking for reasons to moan about the club

 

[Boro4life]

I said this would happen why on earth have the club decided to subsidy tickets that would of sold anyway at £27 quid. You need to subsidy the Plymouth game the Bristol game the Cardiff game the Swansea game even the Norwich game next week games that aren't selling out. But to choose the last 16 of a cup with low allocation they are bound to sell out regardless. I managed to get ours so am pleased but I reckon I am surrounded by empty spaces that if that's the case the club need to take action against the seats that are left empty and dock points it's not right

 

[Redwurzel]

It would be criminal if fans bought tickets and did not go to sell out games.

Possibly MFC could organise someone to log empty seat numbers at Exeter at several different times during the game.

I don't know if Exeter could electronically log away tickets that were not scanned and the info given to MFC and offenders be warned another incidence and their priority points are all lost.

The same at Plymouth if long term season ticket holders are just buying tickets for every away game so they can accumualte PPs for the Northern away games. Mind you Sheff Wed and Coventry did not sell out nor did Watford and Norwich there are still 39 tickets left. Possibly the big away crowds in the cup have been boosted by PPs on £5 and £10 tickets, but all the away seats looked filled on the TV.

On advantage Devon, Cornwall and Somerset based fans is that they can apply for home end tickets with their home address and keeep a low profile in the stadium I don't think Plymouth sell out the home end. I do realise Exeter is a smaller ground and home tickets are unlikely to hit general sale as its a big game for them.

Some of the Teesside purchased tickets for the Devon games may still find their way to SW based Boro fans through friend and relatives.

I would have cut travel costs for fans going to the Devon games on official transport, not cut ticket prices.

 

[clay]

Lots of posters suggested Bradford's £5 tickets would also be snapped up by fans only interested in the points. I was there, and I didn't see any obvious gaps in the stand from people who didn't bother turning up.

Maybe we should wait to see if they show up in Exeter before insulting the fans who've bought tickets?

 

[fmttmadmin]

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I appreciate what you do Rob, but just sometimes I feel your feet are to far under the club's table, when I opened up about tickets down here for regional supporters your response was to say I should have posted that a week earlier. Well I hadn't known at that time about the club's considering a price reduction on tickets, which would have great as long as the club as some other poster suggested closed priority points for this match, that might have been enough to push it too general sale. Sometimes Rob I just can't see how you are fighting the corner of the ordinary fan, whenever I have suggested that the club push other clubs to get tickets out earlier you have dismissed it, and hint that we should be able to sort it out with extensive advance notice, maybe we can't Rob, some fans don't have the knowledge that they will definitely get a ticket, I feel like a need a ticket in advance before I start booking accommodation, travel etc, I know I'm glad I never did for Plymouth, which even though it's a short distance for me is a big away weekend and I had planned to make the most of it, but you can't if the clubs are even following their guidelines for advance notice and sale.point taken Rob maybe I should taken this to messages, and maybe after this this what I do.
I think it is time we part company for a while - you said earlier in this thread that you had bought a ticket for priority points and almost went to the game - was that cheating the system or maybe some would say it was cheating Boro fans.

Some would say that there are fans on this thread that don't care about the ordinary fan but instead only care about themselves.
Yes, you should have raised the issue of SW fans earlier, of course you should. Why did south west fans not go direct to the club or the forum?

It would be criminal if fans bought tickets and did not go to sell out games.

Possibly MFC could organise someone to log empty seat numbers at Exeter at several different times during the game.

I don't know if Exeter could electronically log away tickets that were not scanned and the info given to MFC and offenders be warned another incidence and their priority points are all lost.

The same at Plymouth if long term season ticket holders are just buying tickets for every away game so they can accumualte PPs for the Northern away games. Mind you Sheff Wed and Coventry did not sell out nor did Watford and Norwich there are still 39 tickets left. Possibly the big away crowds in the cup have been boosted by PPs on £5 and £10 tickets, but all the away seats looked filled on the TV.

On advantage Devon, Cornwall and Somerset based fans is that they can apply for home end tickets with their home address and keeep a low profile in the stadium I don't think Plymouth sell out the home end. I do realise Exeter is a smaller ground and home tickets are unlikely to hit general sale as its a big game for them.

Some of the Teesside purchased tickets for the Devon games may still find their way to SW based Boro fans through friend and relatives.

I would have cut travel costs for fans going to the Devon games on official transport, not cut ticket prices.

Criminal you say - there is at least one fan posting on this thread that has admitted to this earlier in the season! I was going to kick him off the forum when I first read it - but I decided to hold my tongue.
There was a precedent for giving a concession for official coach travel to Devon but how unfair that would be for all those travelling by car, by hired coach or train. There was only really one way to help out all fans and that was to reduce the ticket. That generosity actually came from the top of the club.

 

[fmttmadmin]

I said this would happen why on earth have the club decided to subsidy tickets that would of sold anyway at £27 quid. You need to subsidy the Plymouth game the Bristol game the Cardiff game the Swansea game even the Norwich game next week games that aren't selling out. But to choose the last 16 of a cup with low allocation they are bound to sell out regardless. I managed to get ours so am pleased but I reckon I am surrounded by empty spaces that if that's the case the club need to take action against the seats that are left empty and dock points it's not right

Because the club realised that it was asking a lot for fans to travel to Devon once or twice in a week. Some fans do go to every game if they can. The football team truly appreciates their support. Any one going to every game knows that it isn't a closed shop because there are lots of fans in that pool of high points earners that pick and choose away games. They might go to 50% or 75% of away games a season - am guestimating here - but not all. It isn't the same away crowd at every game.
What has really changed the dynamics for this game is half term. That has opened up a long distance away game to far more people than would otherwise have been able to travel.

 

[fmttmadmin]

I appreciate what you do Rob, but just sometimes I feel your feet are to far under the club's table, when I opened up about tickets down here for regional supporters your response was to say I should have posted that a week earlier. Well I hadn't known at that time about the club's considering a price reduction on tickets, which would have great as long as the club as some other poster suggested closed priority points for this match, that might have been enough to push it too general sale. Sometimes Rob I just can't see how you are fighting the corner of the ordinary fan, whenever I have suggested that the club push other clubs to get tickets out earlier you have dismissed it, and hint that we should be able to sort it out with extensive advance notice, maybe we can't Rob, some fans don't have the knowledge that they will definitely get a ticket, I feel like a need a ticket in advance before I start booking accommodation, travel etc, I know I'm glad I never did for Plymouth, which even though it's a short distance for me is a big away weekend and I had planned to make the most of it, but you can't if the clubs are even following their guidelines for advance notice and sale.point taken Rob maybe I should taken this to messages, and maybe after this this what I do.

For your information and everyone else the issue of away tickets going on sale late that you raised - has been taken to the football club, the FSA and the EFL. Host clubs are not sending out tickets early enough to travelling clubs.
I have been told that it isn't such an issue elsewhere around the league but then again it wouldn't be if you had a small away following. It doesn't matter how late the tickets are issued if you know for certain you will be able to get one.
Norwich City actually publish the date of tickets going on sale as well as a fixture list ahead of the season. Whether they stick to the list I don't know.
But clearly this is something that the EFL need to act on. This issue has been taken to them to try and force the hands of clubs to be fair to fans.

 

[InglebyUTB]

Lots of posters suggested Bradford's £5 tickets would also be snapped up by fans only interested in the points. I was there, and I didn't see any obvious gaps in the stand from people who didn't bother turning up.

Maybe we should wait to see if they show up in Exeter before insulting the fans who've bought tickets?

Nobody claimed the seats would be vacant. Because the seats aren’t empty doesn’t mean they haven’t been purchased for purely for points. I know plenty who bought them for that game and sold them on as a fiver a ticket was very low risk to get points.

I’ve never seen as many tickets being sold on social media as I have for that game. I was in the Bradford Arms beer garden before the game and people were openly offering tickets for sale, which four lads without tickets were happy about. I’ve never seen that at a another Boro game.

I guarantee there’ll be a steady stream of people on social media over the next week and a bit who’s plans suddenly change and they can’t make the game so they’re selling their tickets.

 

[exeterboro]

Some would say that there are fans on this thread that don't care about the ordinary fan but instead only care about themselves

I have my ticket Rob, obviously living in Exeter I have other means, and I have refused a very kind offer of a ticket sent last week, to be truthful if I was so inclined I could have been awash with tickets, I thought let them go through their proper channels, but already hearing some are now being offered for sale elsewhere I wish I had vacuumed up for the South West group.

 

[Malaguena]

There was only really one way to help out all fans and that was to reduce the ticket

How many more times Rob - this isn't helping out "all fans" - it's helping people who have season cards and want to go to the attractive away matches in the North rack up more points by buying tickets they have no intention of using .... and you know that there will be a significant number doing this.

Look, it's fine, that's the way Gibson wants to operate, he has no interest in the casual fan, and it's his club and can do as he wants, but please don't spin it as helping out "all fans" and don't try and convince us that the "Fans Forum" has an iota of influence on how the clubs is run, ticket prices, ticket allocations, introduction of electronic tickets etc etc - he's just playing you along.

 

[InglebyUTB]

If the game changer was that the game was in half-term and just before the Plymouth game, then there was no need for a ticket subsidy. I don’t know about anyone else but by the time you’ve filled the car up, got accommodation for 5 nights, paid for food and drink for 5 days/nights, filled your car up again to go home and then saving a tenner on your ticket is going to not add up to much in the grand scheme of things. It’s a nice gesture but if you can afford to do the rest you can easily afford the tenner.

But that £10 discount did make it easy for the points vultures to swoop in and buy the tickets.

If they wanted to do discount tickets why not do it for Swansea the week before Christmas.

Or do the Exeter subsidy but tell people afterwards and refund them the £10, or make that game illegible for points.

There were far better ways to do it the way they did it, which just ended up being a priority point purchase subsidy.

 

[Zoophonic]

I said this would happen why on earth have the club decided to subsidy tickets that would of sold anyway at £27 quid. You need to subsidy the Plymouth game the Bristol game the Cardiff game the Swansea game even the Norwich game next week games that aren't selling out. But to choose the last 16 of a cup with low allocation they are bound to sell out regardless. I managed to get ours so am pleased but I reckon I am surrounded by empty spaces that if that's the case the club need to take action against the seats that are left empty and dock points it's not right

I do sympathise and shame on those who have done this frankly. That said what idiot would buy a seat ticket and not use it just to get two priority points when a cheaper terrace ticket would do the same? Surely any gaps will be in the terrace? And sadly you wont be able to identify them.

 

[InglebyUTB]

I do sympathise and shame on those who have done this frankly. That said what idiot would buy a seat ticket and not use it just to get two priority points when a cheaper terrace ticket would do the same? Surely any gaps will be in the terrace? And sadly you wont be able to identify them.

Yeah you’re right, the horse has bolted. Nobody with half a brain has paid extra for a seat if they’re not going.

There is no way to tell who is and isn’t there, and even if you could there’s no way of knowing who woke up that morning with the runs, who developed Covid the night before, and who had no intention of turning up.

 

[fmttmadmin]

I appreciate what you do Rob, but just sometimes I feel your feet are to far under the club's table, when I opened up about tickets down here for regional supporters your response was to say I should have posted that a week earlier. Well I hadn't known at that time about the club's considering a price reduction on tickets, which would have great as long as the club as some other poster suggested closed priority points for this match, that might have been enough to push it too general sale. Sometimes Rob I just can't see how you are fighting the corner of the ordinary fan, whenever I have suggested that the club push other clubs to get tickets out earlier you have dismissed it, and hint that we should be able to sort it out with extensive advance notice, maybe we can't Rob, some fans don't have the knowledge that they will definitely get a ticket, I feel like a need a ticket in advance before I start booking accommodation, travel etc, I know I'm glad I never did for Plymouth, which even though it's a short distance for me is a big away weekend and I had planned to make the most of it, but you can't if the clubs are even following their guidelines for advance notice and sale.point taken Rob maybe I should taken this to messages, and maybe after this this what I do.

How many more times Rob - this isn't helping out "all fans" - it's helping people who have season cards and want to go to the attractive away matches in the North rack up more points by buying tickets they have no intention of using .... and you know that there will be a significant number doing this.

Look, it's fine, that's the way Gibson wants to operate, he has no interest in the casual fan, and it's his club and can do as he wants, but please don't spin it as helping out "all fans" and don't try and convince us that the "Fans Forum" has an iota of influence on how the clubs is run, ticket prices, ticket allocations, introduction of electronic tickets etc etc - he's just playing you along.

Every away ticket sale thread there are the same group of people complaining and complaining loud.
Look elsewhere online loads of people have booked accommodation and travel down to the south west. The offer by the club was generous and I cannot believe some would like it to have been turned down. It is bizarre.
Malaguena - could it be it is you that is out of touch and out of reach? Hundreds of Boro fans are looking forward to a halfterm break in the south west. Hopefully the weather works out. It is November!
There were only ever 1300 tickets. What system could possibly be fairer than giving the first choice to a priority scheme? A total free for all surely means far more chance of wholesale ticket touting. This way the majority of tickets go to loyal Boro fans, people that track the miles watching their team. That costs money. That costs time. In my experience the fans on Supporters Bus no.1 are not millionaires. The passengers on the Twe12th man bus are not on a jolly to their second homes on the English Riviera. They are ordinary people, with jobs and lives but they make an extraordinary effort to watch the team that they love.
That is the reality outside of this ticket thread.

 

[asredastheycome]

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Some would say that there are fans on this thread that don't care about the ordinary fan but instead only care about themselves.
Yes, you should have raised the issue of SW fans earlier, of course you should. Why did south west fans not go direct to the club or the forum?

Criminal you say - there is at least one fan posting on this thread that has admitted to this earlier in the season! I was going to kick him off the forum when I first read it - but I decided to hold my tongue.
There was a precedent for giving a concession for official coach travel to Devon but how unfair that would be for all those travelling by car, by hired coach or train. There was only really one way to help out all fans and that was to reduce the ticket. That generosity actually came from the top of the club.

Why consider kicking someone off the board when they have done nothing wrong. Their actions maybe selfish but well within their rights to buy a ticket and not go.

As for booking accommodation etc. We booked our ages ago with the right to cancel should we not get a ticket. As it is we have actually had to change hotel rooms etc as more people are now going with us.

 

[Humpty]

How many more times Rob - this isn't helping out "all fans" - it's helping people who have season cards and want to go to the attractive away matches in the North rack up more points by buying tickets they have no intention of using .... and you know that there will be a significant number doing this.

Look, it's fine, that's the way Gibson wants to operate, he has no interest in the casual fan, and it's his club and can do as he wants, but please don't spin it as helping out "all fans" and don't try and convince us that the "Fans Forum" has an iota of influence on how the clubs is run, ticket prices, ticket allocations, introduction of electronic tickets etc etc - he's just playing you along.

This is correct unfortunately.

 

[Humpty]

Every away ticket sale thread there are the same group of people complaining and complaining loud.
Look elsewhere online loads of people have booked accommodation and travel down to the south west. The offer by the club was generous and I cannot believe some would like it to have been turned down. It is bizarre.
Malaguena - could it be it is you that is out of touch and out of reach? Hundreds of Boro fans are looking forward to a halfterm break in the south west. Hopefully the weather works out. It is November!
There were only ever 1300 tickets. What system could possibly be fairer than giving the first choice to a priority scheme? A total free for all surely means far more chance of wholesale ticket touting. This way the majority of tickets go to loyal Boro fans, people that track the miles watching their team. That costs money. That costs time. In my experience the fans on Supporters Bus no.1 are not millionaires. The passengers on the Twe12th man bus are not on a jolly to their second homes on the English Riviera. They are ordinary people, with jobs and lives but they make an extraordinary effort to watch the team that they love.
That is the reality outside of this ticket thread.

What would be fair would be to open the sale of away tickets to all season ticket holders. That way all season ticket holders would have the chance to attend the in demand game. Travelling to watch Boro isn't a chore or a hardship. It's a luxury.