Everton's points deduction reduced to 6 points

Surely that'll just be increased again with the second round of charges against them? Seems like a bit of two for the price of one to me.
 
Yes, as expected. They sold Richarlison for under book price to Spurs early in the transfer window to try and sort the situation out. The next charge will probably lead to another 10 point deduction.

Forest will probably not win their appeal, as they held on to Johnson til late in the transfer window to get more money for him which happened outside of the window.
 
Cardiffdaffs said:
A convenient get out by the FA to protect Everton. Probably go back uo to 10 when they look at the next penalty.
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It's got nothing to do with the FA - it's all about Premier League rules and the Appeal Board was appointed by the Premier League Judicial Panel.

Everton successfully argued that there is a 9 point deduction for going into administration and therefore the penalty for breaching PSR shouldn't be higher or as high as that. Seems perfectly logical to me.

As for the next penalty, surely this judgement sets the penalty at 6 points and therefore the next penalty will be 6 points as well, unless the second breach is much less significant I guess.
 
6 points is a much more fairer punishment than 10.

They won't get more than 10 now though, even with the added 2nd round charges.

It makes it interesting if Forest get the same punishment (upto 4 points) as they'll be dragged right in the relegation scrap....that's assuming they're not already in it.

Burnley and Sheff Utd have been relegated since day 1, but Luton have actually given themselves some sort of chance.
 
WilliamMunny said:
It's got nothing to do with the FA - it's all about Premier League rules and the Appeal Board was appointed by the Premier League Judicial Panel.

Everton successfully argued that there is a 9 point deduction for going into administration and therefore the penalty for breaching PSR shouldn't be higher or as high as that. Seems perfectly logical to me.

As for the next penalty, surely this judgement sets the penalty at 6 points and therefore the next penalty will be 6 points as well, unless the second breach is much less significant I guess.
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In most walks of life, fines are usually increased for a second offence but this is football we are talking about.
 
Norman_Conquest said:
In most walks of life, fines are usually increased for a second offence but this is football we are talking about.
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Yes but it would be harsh to increase the penalty for the second breach as that occurred before they were punished for the first breach, i.e. there was no chance for the 1st penalty to act as a deterrent.

I'd also add that this is a rolling 3 year assessment, so if the years ending 2021 and 2022 were particularly bad, which I believe they were, they will count for both the 1st breach and the 2nd breach.

Edit - thinking that through, if Everton can demonstrate improvement in the year ending 2023, they may successfully argue for a lower 2nd punishment, or even that they've already been punished sufficiently for those offending years.
 
WilliamMunny said:
It's got nothing to do with the FA - it's all about Premier League rules and the Appeal Board was appointed by the Premier League Judicial Panel.

Everton successfully argued that there is a 9 point deduction for going into administration and therefore the penalty for breaching PSR shouldn't be higher or as high as that. Seems perfectly logical to me.

As for the next penalty, surely this judgement sets the penalty at 6 points and therefore the next penalty will be 6 points as well, unless the second breach is much less significant I guess.
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The point deduction for administration was also to ensure financial fair play, to prevent a club gaining an advantage through non-payment of debts to HMRC while the rest of league had to pay their taxes, ergo I think both punishments should be the same for a 1st offence.
 
WilliamMunny said:
It's got nothing to do with the FA - it's all about Premier League rules and the Appeal Board was appointed by the Premier League Judicial Panel.

Everton successfully argued that there is a 9 point deduction for going into administration and therefore the penalty for breaching PSR shouldn't be higher or as high as that. Seems perfectly logical to me.

As for the next penalty, surely this judgement sets the penalty at 6 points and therefore the next penalty will be 6 points as well, unless the second breach is much less significant I guess.
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Nah, you can’t come here with well thought out post

If this was boro we’d have had a 20 point deduction (note my sarcasm) 🥸
 
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I find it all very arbitrary. How you judge the scale of penalty as "fair" or "unfair" is invidious when it comes to multi offences. God knows what they will do with City if at all.

Not that I am that bothered. Lets face it we didn't really want Everton to come down because they would be pretty much certain to go back up again the following season.
 
Cardiffdaffs said:
I find it all very arbitrary. How you judge the scale of penalty as "fair" or "unfair" is invidious when it comes to multi offences. God knows what they will do with City if at all.

Not that I am that bothered. Lets face it we didn't really want Everton to come down because they would be pretty much certain to go back up again the following season.
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Agreed, I definitely want Luton back in the champo next season rather than Everton.
 
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