Energy Bills from January

My joint fuel bill was £120 last month. BG emailed to tell me my annual bill will be £4500. Either they are extremely poor at maths, or they are trying to get an unnecessarily high DD out of me.
Is this £4500 based on usage as the price cap kicks in?

Your bill last month isn't a good judge of what payments will be, you need to look at your annual usage and put that into mse calculator to see what you will pay on the EPG scheme from October

You'll use hardly any gas in August, think we used 10 units. It will ramp up in autumn and winter and prices are going up and you may have been Ona fix previously?

Don't forget the £400 reduction also
 
I understand some people will pay £4,500 if they use say double the normal amount.

Linny did say it was not rising in January which was critical, because it means the estimates issued by British Gas last week will not be changed in January.

Fingers crossed if weather is average this winter, we will be paying a bit less than last winter, because the £400 exceeds this years projected rise.

I set the thermostat the 19 degrees (opposed to 20 degrees) and room radiator stats are switched to 1 (very low) in any room not regularly used. Washing up more less often, microwave more than oven. Usage should drop too.

I am glad some others (who need it it) are getting more financial help than me as it does concern me how desperate some people will be by Xmas.

Wholesale prices appear to be falling (a bit) for gas and definitley for oil now down to $78/barrel. OK dollar is high.
 
  • 0 = Off
  • * = 7°C
  • 1 = 10°C
  • 2 = 15°C
  • 3 = 20°C
  • 4 = 25°C
  • 5 = 30°C
Radiator TRV settings if anyone isn't aware. If temp reaches that point the rad shuts off. Lot of people just think 5 makes it hot or 1 is a low power but it's quite controlled
 
  • 0 = Off
  • * = 7°C
  • 1 = 10°C
  • 2 = 15°C
  • 3 = 20°C
  • 4 = 25°C
  • 5 = 30°C
Radiator TRV settings if anyone isn't aware. If temp reaches that point the rad shuts off. Lot of people just think 5 makes it hot or 1 is a low power but it's quite controlled
I'll be turning the boiler temperature down to see if I can get it to its sweet point with full condensation of the flue water vapour while still not freezing my nuts off. I have probably had it running too hot previously.
 
The weakness of the pound will keep energy prices high, couple that with interest rates rising pretty sharply in the very near future and it's going to be a tough time for those families with mortgages.
 
Energy prices will stay high on bills anyway as truss said part of the negotiation was they would accept lower prices now in return for higher prices later so wouldn't expect them to come crashing down. It's also the future prices rather than the day prices so a much slower process to trickle into bills
 
  • 0 = Off
  • * = 7°C
  • 1 = 10°C
  • 2 = 15°C
  • 3 = 20°C
  • 4 = 25°C
  • 5 = 30°C
Radiator TRV settings if anyone isn't aware. If temp reaches that point the rad shuts off. Lot of people just think 5 makes it hot or 1 is a low power but it's quite controlled
I don't know why I never questioned it but I was always told that the numbers on it weren't calibrated well so you have to figure each one out yourself. 5 and 0 are obviously on/off and anything in between could be anything.

TRV NumberTemperature settingRoom Type
0Closed/Off
*Frost Protection Setting 4-7°CAttached Garage
18-12°CUnoccupied Basement/Cellar
213-17°CUtility Room
318-21°CBedroom
421-23°CLiving Room
523-29°CFully Open Max. Temperature

Just googled and this guide gives it as more of a range but helpfully gives you an example room so I'll be adjusting all mine to match.
 
  • 0 = Off
  • * = 7°C
  • 1 = 10°C
  • 2 = 15°C
  • 3 = 20°C
  • 4 = 25°C
  • 5 = 30°C
Radiator TRV settings if anyone isn't aware. If temp reaches that point the rad shuts off. Lot of people just think 5 makes it hot or 1 is a low power but it's quite controlled
I’ve often wondered how accurate these can be as the valve is on the side of the radiators.

So it will be much warmer where the valve is an opposed to the middle or other end of the room.

So if you set it to 3, once it hits 20 degrees it will turn off but the middle of the room will be cooler - right?
 
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