Electric car home charging??

Sammysmiths said:
It’s all confusing.something about 150kw charging power? I really know nothing about the various charging options. I just need to know that it will be more cost effective charging it on a 3 pin plug, than putting diesel in my current car .
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The answer will depend on who you ask and the parameters that you use I will give one example

If you kept the new electric car for seven years you could easily look up the average depreciation of electric cars over this time frame, you could then use this depreciation in your calculations so work out your buying price detract the depreciation and divide by seven for a yearly figure, use your average mileage and calculate an approx cost of charging, look up average maintenance costs over the seven years that should give you a broad figure to use against your current car.

If you are changing cars regardless so it’s a question of new diesel against new electric it’s going to get very difficult because the diesel could be really sort after if there is a ban on new diesel vehicles being built in the uk but it could easily go the other way so you find yourself with a car that nobody wants.

Interpret anyway you like, oh and if a new clean combustion fuel is found in that seven years that would probably significantly reduce the demand on the EV😬
 
The other thing to consider if planning to use a 3 pin socket is how you connect the car to the supply and whether it is safe. You will be using the socket and any extension cables you intent to use at close to their maximum 3kW/13 amp capacity (you have to make sure all cabling and fuses are rated to 13 amps). This will put strain on your circuit, the cables, and the socket, with the potential to cause serious problems, such as overheating and even a fire.
I would say that the 3 pin connector supplied with EVs really should only be used for emergency or infrequent charging and the safest option is to have a dedicated 7kw home charger installed.
 
Sammysmiths said:
My daily commute is 72 miles round trip but I lift share so maybe only drive once a week (sometimes twice). I’ll look at the Octopus options. Thank you for the advice.
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They've got a tariff for ev users too but most people prefer the tracker for its simplicity.

The ev one s broken up into half hourly pricing and peak time like 4pm to 7pm is very expensive and time outside of that is cheaper with overnight being very very cheap. If you can switch most your use to that overnight time, especially if you have solar and battery, then you can do very well, but without solar and without being able to shift your usage from peak to night hours, tracked works best for you, so depends on lifestyle and all that jazz

Basically tracker should've you about 30-40% on average vs price cap products. The key thing is you join the tracker once you join octopus so when you join them, ignore the quote they give you on their website because they're quoting you for their standard tariff - it's the tracker you needs to compare to.

Todays rates are 4.59p a unit for gas and 18.15p for elec so over a year that's quite significant especially adding an EV into the mix.
 
So, car is bought and collecting it Tuesday.
Does the Tracker tarrif offer a lower price per kwh through the night?
Looking at the specific EV tarrif with Octopus, its approx 29p peak and 7.5p off peak.
How does the tracker compare to this?
Thanks
 
Sammysmiths said:
So, car is bought and collecting it Tuesday.
Does the Tracker tarrif offer a lower price per kwh through the night?
Looking at the specific EV tarrif with Octopus, its approx 29p peak and 7.5p off peak.
How does the tracker compare to this?
Thanks
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So you have 3 options

1) ev rate - 11:30-05:30 it's 7.5p and above that it's 29p so pretty much same as price cap. Key thing here is how much will you use in those 6 hours vs how much you use in the other 18 hours of the day, and does that then save you money? If you can switch washing drying dishwasher etc to those times you can save

2) the one I mention in the post above your last one - this has half hourly pricing, same applies but off peak it gets even cheaper and on peak even more expensive

3) The tracker is one rate all the time. So again, how much energy will you use at the 7.5p rate?

If you can shift all your energy to it for those few hours you can make savings but on the tracker everything is cheaper all the time.

Todays rate is 18.05p elec, gas 4.7p

There is no ev gas option so either way, you want to be in the tracker for gas option regardless

For elec it'll come down to how much you charge your ev and how much you will use other stuff during that time. If you lift share I'd say you'll be a lower user so benefit from tracker more but I wouldn't like to say, but other fmttm users with EV's like @Nano i believe use the tracker. If you've solar or batteries it gets more complicated

Either way, for more info on tracker read this post - no matter what tariff you go with you'll get the £50 for joining them, and you definitely want to join the gas tracker, it's just the elec one you want to think over

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Minefield!!
There’s just the 2 of us at home. We use the washing machine and maybe a tumble drier twice a week during the day. No dishwasher. Other than that we are just general users.
House is 3 bedroom detached.
Currently with EON so wondering if it’s worth staying? Their prices are
57p standing charge
32p peak
10p off peak.
Next Drive tarrif.
 
Sammysmiths said:
Minefield!!
There’s just the 2 of us at home. We use the washing machine and maybe a tumble drier twice a week during the day. No dishwasher. Other than that we are just general users.
House is 3 bedroom detached.
Currently with EON so wondering if it’s worth staying? Their prices are
57p standing charge
32p peak
10p off peak.
Next Drive tarrif.
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It's not worth staying in my opinion.

You will use thousands of units over a year on both elec and gas

The tracked is 14p a unit cheaper on elec and probably 4-5p a unit cheaper on gas.

You'd be able to switch back to a price cap with a few days notice but at current prices you'd be saving 30-40% on the peak pricess

Sounds like your benefit of the off peak process would be limited as all your elec usage will be done during that other than the charging which is low use

And as mentioned no EV gas tariff so tracker is best in market


If you were a heavy eg user and you could move your usage to night time you might benefit but it would take some work to ensure everything is being done then and it sounds like that won't fit your lifestyle
 
is a 3 pin ok for a PHEV? We have solar panels and my idea is to charge from these for 7 or 8 months of the year for all the short journeys, which constitute 90% of all my trips.
 
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