Children’s homes strategy would improve care and reduce costs

fmttmadmin

Administrator
Staff member
A five-year plan could see more vulnerable children looked after closer to home and generate significant savings for Middlesbrough Council. Mayor Chris Cooke and his Executive team will be asked this week to back a strategy designed to reduce the use of expensive external placements for children in care. The changes would see the Council purchase more properties to be used as children’s homes to grow its own residential care offer.

A report to Executive forecasts the changes could save the Council almost £2m over four years and sets out several benefits of children being cared for in the Middlesbrough area. A five-year plan could see more vulnerable children looked after closer to home and generate significant savings for Middlesbrough Council. Mayor Chris Cooke and his Executive team will be asked this week to back a strategy designed to reduce the use of expensive external placements for children in care.

The changes would see the Council purchase more properties to be used as children’s homes to grow its own residential care offer. Children’s Services would also enter new partnerships with local accommodation providers.

A report to Executive forecasts the changes could save the Council almost £2m over four years and sets out several benefits of children being cared for in the Middlesbrough area. They include supervised family time being easier to manage, stronger relationships and an increased potential for children to return home. Social workers can also have greater oversight on care and education plans when a young person is living in the Middlesbrough area. Safeguarding concerns mean some children and young people have reasons for living outside of the area and these arrangements wouldn’t change.

Cllr Zafar Uddin, Executive member for Children’s Services, said: “The plan to be considered this week puts the wellbeing of the children in our care first.

“Having Middlesbrough children looked after closer to home is extremely beneficial to their upbringing. They’re likely to feel less isolated and are more part of our community.
“At the same time, it puts us in a position where our arrangements are more cost-effective which is vitally important as we look to make the Council’s financial position more sustainable.”

On average, Middlesbrough Council residential placements cost £3,300 per week, compared to an average cost of £5,600 per week for an external placement. Children’s Services in Middlesbrough saw its overall Ofsted rating upgraded following an inspection in March 2023. And the town’s provision for children and young people with special educational needs or disabilities were given the highest possible rating following an Ofsted and Care Quality Commission inspection last October.

Executive will consider the residential care report on February 28.

ENDS
 
The biggest reason children aren't looked after closer to home is the lack of foster carers. Mrs T and l have looked after kids from all over the country because of the lack of carers in their home areas. Why are there so few carers? Poor pay, poor support, no rights, job insecurity, no sick pay, no pension, no holiday pay, risk of false allegations, threats from parents, home being wrecked, lack of empathy from Social Services , kids constantly going missing.
We retired from it earlier this month but so glad that we have been lucky enough to help some kids who may otherwise ended up in jail.
 
The biggest reason children aren't looked after closer to home is the lack of foster carers. Mrs T and l have looked after kids from all over the country because of the lack of carers in their home areas. Why are there so few carers? Poor pay, poor support, no rights, job insecurity, no sick pay, no pension, no holiday pay, risk of false allegations, threats from parents, home being wrecked, lack of empathy from Social Services , kids constantly going missing.
We retired from it earlier this month but so glad that we have been lucky enough to help some kids who may otherwise ended up in jail.

Couldn't agree more.
It should be a paid profession with standards of Care qualifications etc. With it being paid at least at band 6 levels ( caveat that it is deemed ones only employment )

Me and Mrs OutofTown looked into it a few years back. We've 50 years front line NHS experience between us. Kids have flown the roost.
We've a house big enough to take siblings in separate bedrooms.
It was going to be me as the foster carer.
It was then no girls, no under 5, no acknowledgement of siblings being more expensive than a single child etc etc.

Did the sums and it worked out about 1/2 of what I'd be earning doing a 9 - 5.
It's scandalous really.
 
Last edited:
Couldn't agree more.
It should be a paid profession with standards of Care qualifications etc. With it being paid at least at band 6 levels ( caveat that it is deemed ones only employment )

Me and Mrs OutofTown looked into it a few years back. We've 50 years front line NHS experience between us. Kids have flown the roost.
We've a house big enough to take siblings in separate bedrooms.
It was going to be me as the foster carer.
It was then no girls, no under 5, no acknowledgement of siblings being more expensive than a single child etc etc.

Did the sums and it worked out about 1/2 of what I'd be earning doing a 9 - 5.
It's scandalous really.
If you were offered half of your full time job wages you would be doing well. You also need to keep your training updated which you do in your own time, some of it is mandatory and there is no extra pay for it.
This sounds like I am moaning but I am just pointing out the reality. If the pay and conditions of social workers and foster carers are not improved then the council can invest in local residential areas all they like but the kids outcomes will not improve.
 
As the end of January.

Middlesbrough council had 528 children in care.

The breakdown of that number are.
97 in residential placement. of which 76 are in external placement and 21 in MBC managed residential placement- we hope to increase our own placements by a minimum of 15 in 2 years.

372 in foster care.

59- Other placements.

We currently have 32 children in our care that are classed as "high cost" - £100k+ a year.
 
As the end of January.

Middlesbrough council had 528 children in care.

The breakdown of that number are.
97 in residential placement. of which 76 are in external placement and 21 in MBC managed residential placement- we hope to increase our own placements by a minimum of 15 in 2 years.

372 in foster care.

59- Other placements.

We currently have 32 children in our care that are classed as "high cost" - £100k+ a year.
As the end of January.

Middlesbrough council had 528 children in care.

The breakdown of that number are.
97 in residential placement. of which 76 are in external placement and 21 in MBC managed residential placement- we hope to increase our own placements by a minimum of 15 in 2 years.

372 in foster care.

59- Other placements.

We currently have 32 children in our care that are classed as "high cost" - £100k+ a year.
As the end of January.

Middlesbrough council had 528 children in care.

The breakdown of that number are.
97 in residential placement. of which 76 are in external placement and 21 in MBC managed residential placement- we hope to increase our own placements by a minimum of 15 in 2 years.

372 in foster care.

59- Other placements.

We currently have 32 children in our care that are classed as "high cost" - £100k+ a year.
 
There have been noises about it for years but until proper measures are put in place to stop profiteering private care homes then Local Authorities will continue to have their eyes taken out.

It’s disgusting that people are getting rich out of the suffering of some of the most vulnerable families in our society.
 
As the end of January.

Middlesbrough council had 528 children in care.

The breakdown of that number are.
97 in residential placement. of which 76 are in external placement and 21 in MBC managed residential placement- we hope to increase our own placements by a minimum of 15 in 2 years.

372 in foster care.

59- Other placements.

We currently have 32 children in our care that are classed as "high cost" - £100k+ a year.

Think at the time it was 325 ish , for one , two or three ..
Utterly unsustainable for anyone not retired , and professional
It's one of the things I'd hoped that Corbyn might of acted on.. not more me , but for the forgotten voice of children in care
 
As the end of January.

Middlesbrough council had 528 children in care.

The breakdown of that number are.
97 in residential placement. of which 76 are in external placement and 21 in MBC managed residential placement- we hope to increase our own placements by a minimum of 15 in 2 years.

372 in foster care.

59- Other placements.

We currently have 32 children in our care that are classed as "high cost" - £100k+ a year.

Does that include Acklam Road placements .. because if so , a better breakdown of figures is beneficial to all.
 
Couldn't agree more.
It should be a paid profession with standards of Care qualifications etc. With it being paid at least at band 6 levels ( caveat that it is deemed ones only employment )

Me and Mrs OutofTown looked into it a few years back. We've 50 years front line NHS experience between us. Kids have flown the roost.
We've a house big enough to take siblings in separate bedrooms.
It was going to be me as the foster carer.
It was then no girls, no under 5, no acknowledgement of siblings being more expensive than a single child etc etc.

Did the sums and it worked out about 1/2 of what I'd be earning doing a 9 - 5.
It's scandalous really.

Why no girls if you were primary carer?

Were you going through a local authority or agency?
 
Why are there so few carers? Poor pay, poor support, no rights, job insecurity, no sick pay, no pension, no holiday pay, risk of false allegations, threats from parents, home being wrecked, lack of empathy from Social Services , kids constantly going missing.
We retired from it earlier this month but so glad that we have been lucky enough to help some kids who may otherwise ended up in jail.

I agree, all these things worry me about us continuing to foster. We currently are just doing respite care once a month and I think it’ll stay that way for the above reasons.
 
No idea why ... Presume it was because I was a bloke? . Got two daughters so know more about them than lads.
It was 6 plus years ago , think it was private

Strange! I’m primary carer and can look after either. I wonder if it has changed over the years. They like to make it difficult for you, that I do know!
 
Strange! I’m primary carer and can look after either. I wonder if it has changed over the years. They like to make it difficult for you, that I do know!

Quite possibly.. hopefully it's got a bit more ' forward thinking ' over those years.

Completely take my hat off to you .
It should be classed as a profession. You're trying to undo the trauma , 24/7 365.

It boils my p#ss that THE most , out of everyone , in society are 'costed ' in such a way.
 
That place on west lane is a disgrace and no Matter how many name changes it.. it needs knocking down
 
Back
Top