ChatGPT

[alcoholiday]

What is that all about then?

 

[SilentProf]

It’s incredibly clever but points to a future where most jobs are redundant. Who is going to pay a human to do a job when they can get a machine to do it for next to nothing?

 

[alcoholiday]

It’s incredibly clever but points to a future where most jobs are redundant. Who is going to pay a human to do a job when they can get a machine to do it for next to nothing?

Agree, it's terrifying to think of the implications of AIs progress.
Saying that, I tried asking it this:

Give Middlesbrough's all time best 11 and explain the reason for each selection

The response proves that the technology isn't quite there yet...

​

"Selecting an all-time best XI for a football club can be a difficult task, as it is based on personal opinion and there have been many great players who have represented the club over the years. However, here is one possible all-time best XI for Middlesbrough Football Club:

1. Brad Jones (Goalkeeper) - Consistently solid performer during his time at the club, made a number of crucial saves to help the team achieve success.
2. Franck Queudrue (Left-back) - A solid defender who also contributed to the attack, his crosses and set-pieces were a key aspect of the team's play during his time at the club.
3. George Boateng (Midfield) - A tenacious midfielder who was known for his ability to break up play and start counter-attacks, he was a key player for the team during his time at the club.
4. Gareth Southgate (Center-back) - A leader on and off the field, he captained the team during their most successful period and was known for his ability to organize the defense.
5. Craig Hignett (Midfield) - A versatile player who could play in midfield or attack, he was known for his ability to score goals and create chances for his teammates.
6. Juninho Paulista (Midfield) - A skillful and creative midfielder who was instrumental in the team's success during his two spells at the club, he was a fan favorite and one of the most talented players to ever wear the Middlesbrough shirt.
7. Stewart Downing (Left wing) - A fast and technical player who was known for his ability to create chances and score goals, he was one of the team's most important players during his time at the club.
8. George Hardwick (Center-back) - A legendary player who captained the team during their most successful period in the 1940s, he was known for his leadership and defensive skills.
9. Brian Clough (Forward) - A prolific goal scorer who holds the record for most goals scored for the club, he was a key player during his time at the club and helped lead the team to promotion.
10. Uwe Fuchs (Forward) - A powerful and clinical finisher, he was a key player for the team during his time at the club and scored a number of important goals.
11. Mark Schwarzer (Goalkeeper) - A consistent and reliable goalkeeper who made a number of important saves during his time at the club, he was a key player in the team's success.

It's worth noting that this is one possible selection and there are many other players who could also make a strong case for inclusion in an all-time best XI."

 

[ThatFragranceGuy]

It's very good at summarising thing for explaining things. I use it to help trouble shoot my home automation code but it often gives you code that is wrong or doesn't work but as long as not relying on it it can be very useful.

Friend works in IT sales and he gets it to write summary PowerPoint slides for him.

 

[The_Lizards_Jumpers]

It's very good at summarising thing for explaining things. I use it to help trouble shoot my home automation code but it often gives you code that is wrong or doesn't work but as long as not relying on it it can be very useful.

Friend works in IT sales and he gets it to write summary PowerPoint slides for him.

It still lacks a certain sense of awareness, for example asking it to "write a essay The Catcher in the Rye as an 15 year old" yields an essay that is pretty decent. However when a teacher read through it, she was able to identify where it had used a number of words that although correct, she believed no 15 year old would know / use, and so immediately raised suspicions about the provenance of the entire essay.

I've heard of teachers using it to come up with a lesson plan fairly successfully, but again it requires that final human QA to make sure it's actually fit for purpose as at the moment the level of confidence isn't there to use it without a human eye checking through it.

I know that internally Google are very worried about it, as it has the potential to eat into their core business of search and all the surrounding capabilities (advertising) that comes with, as well as their ability to harvest information and re-sell it.

 

[ThatFragranceGuy]

It still lacks a certain sense of awareness, for example asking it to "write a essay The Catcher in the Rye as an 15 year old" yields an essay that is pretty decent. However when a teacher read through it, she was able to identify where it had used a number of words that although correct, she believed no 15 year old would know / use, and so immediately raised suspicions about the provenance of the entire essay.

I've heard of teachers using it to come up with a lesson plan fairly successfully, but again it requires that final human QA to make sure it's actually fit for purpose as at the moment the level of confidence isn't there to use it without a human eye checking through it.

I know that internally Google are very worried about it, as it has the potential to eat into their core business of search and all the surrounding capabilities (advertising) that comes with, as well as their ability to harvest information and re-sell it.

Yeah it's limited in what I'd use it for wholly. It quite useful if you want something explaining in layman's terms or how to explain something to someone in layman's terms.

As someone with no coding experience, having it able to tell me what's wrong with my home automation code is very useful, but frustrating when it doesn't work and it says "looks like you need to change this..." which then also doesn't work, and I presume entropy has it in a loop of getting a bit worse each time, but it will explain how to do what you need to do any why etc

 

[The Ruthsayer]

It still lacks a certain sense of awareness,

No! ‘It’ does not have ‘awareness’. It is not conscious. It is not capable of self-reflection. As I said earlier, just check out Searle’s Chinese room analogy.

 

[Laughing]

To put this in context. The company I am working for at the moment are developing a ChatGPT interface to read and understand documents and add abstracts. It just about manages to do this.

AI is no where near being applied generally. Expert systems are very good at doing a single thing. recognize a face, recognize cancer markers. There isn't a system anywhere in the world that generalizes AI to even the level of a dog or cat. Further more we are miles away from managing to do this. We don't even understand how intelligence works at a basic level. Neural nets, which mimic our bets guess at how intelligence works in biology, is nowhere near being successful generally. Ensembled decision trees are, generally much more accurate and they are crap too, outside of a very specific task.

The best expert systems we have for diagnosing cancer, doesn't even know what cancer is.

There is one scary thing. Biologists best guess on consciousness is that it evolves from complex systems. It's a natural process and doesn't depend on biology. If this is true, we will one day build a computer processor that qualifies on complexity to develop consciousness. At that point, given moores law, it is only a matter of time until we have an AI that is conscious and self aware. it's worth mentioning that most people don't think Moores law applies anymore.

 

[The_Lizards_Jumpers]

It still lacks a certain sense of awareness,

No! ‘It’ does not have ‘awareness’. It is not conscious. It is not capable of self-reflection. As I said earlier, just check out Searle’s Chinese room analogy.

Perhaps awareness was the wrong word, and context would be better but my point remains

As @Laughing says, AI whilst impressive and ground breaking is not, despite many media reports, ready to replace humans yet as there's so many activities that still require a human at some stage in the process.

 

[fella]

There are some fascinating AI projects around, but ChatGPT is just a very well made bit of fun. It parses requests and pulls in stuff from it's sources and presents a readable response. It's very clever, but it's not AI.

 

[The Ruthsayer]

To put this in context. The company I am working for at the moment are developing a ChatGPT interface to read and understand documents and add abstracts. It just about manages to do this.

AI is no where near being applied generally. Expert systems are very good at doing a single thing. recognize a face, recognize cancer markers. There isn't a system anywhere in the world that generalizes AI to even the level of a dog or cat. Further more we are miles away from managing to do this. We don't even understand how intelligence works at a basic level. Neural nets, which mimic our bets guess at how intelligence works in biology, is nowhere near being successful generally. Ensembled decision trees are, generally much more accurate and they are crap too, outside of a very specific task.

The best expert systems we have for diagnosing cancer, doesn't even know what cancer is.

There is one scary thing. Biologists best guess on consciousness is that it evolves from complex systems. It's a natural process and doesn't depend on biology. If this is true, we will one day build a computer processor that qualifies on complexity to develop consciousness. At that point, given moores law, it is only a matter of time until we have an AI that is conscious and self aware. it's worth mentioning that most people don't think Moores law applies anymore.

Not buying that Laughing. For a philosophical dismemberment of the biologist’s argument on the origin of consciousness try ‘The Emperor’s New Mind’ by Roger Penrose.

 

[BoroMart]

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Agree, it's terrifying to think of the implications of AIs progress.
Saying that, I tried asking it this:

Give Middlesbrough's all time best 11 and explain the reason for each selection

The response proves that the technology isn't quite there yet...

​

"Selecting an all-time best XI for a football club can be a difficult task, as it is based on personal opinion and there have been many great players who have represented the club over the years. However, here is one possible all-time best XI for Middlesbrough Football Club:

1. Brad Jones (Goalkeeper) - Consistently solid performer during his time at the club, made a number of crucial saves to help the team achieve success.
2. Franck Queudrue (Left-back) - A solid defender who also contributed to the attack, his crosses and set-pieces were a key aspect of the team's play during his time at the club.
3. George Boateng (Midfield) - A tenacious midfielder who was known for his ability to break up play and start counter-attacks, he was a key player for the team during his time at the club.
4. Gareth Southgate (Center-back) - A leader on and off the field, he captained the team during their most successful period and was known for his ability to organize the defense.
5. Craig Hignett (Midfield) - A versatile player who could play in midfield or attack, he was known for his ability to score goals and create chances for his teammates.
6. Juninho Paulista (Midfield) - A skillful and creative midfielder who was instrumental in the team's success during his two spells at the club, he was a fan favorite and one of the most talented players to ever wear the Middlesbrough shirt.
7. Stewart Downing (Left wing) - A fast and technical player who was known for his ability to create chances and score goals, he was one of the team's most important players during his time at the club.
8. George Hardwick (Center-back) - A legendary player who captained the team during their most successful period in the 1940s, he was known for his leadership and defensive skills.
9. Brian Clough (Forward) - A prolific goal scorer who holds the record for most goals scored for the club, he was a key player during his time at the club and helped lead the team to promotion.
10. Uwe Fuchs (Forward) - A powerful and clinical finisher, he was a key player for the team during his time at the club and scored a number of important goals.
11. Mark Schwarzer (Goalkeeper) - A consistent and reliable goalkeeper who made a number of important saves during his time at the club, he was a key player in the team's success.

It's worth noting that this is one possible selection and there are many other players who could also make a strong case for inclusion in an all-time best XI."

ss if Brad Jones is your number one, then you need a second GK in your starting XI to compensate for that, and why not make it our best GK of all time.

 

[Laughing]

Not buying that Laughing. For a philosophical dismemberment of the biologist’s argument on the origin of consciousness try ‘The Emperor’s New Mind’ by Roger Penrose.

I have no idea, that was others opinion. I know a lot about ai but nothing really about biology.

I like penrose, so I'll get his book. What I would say is he isn't a biologist. He is a mathematician and physicist.

That's not to say I think he is wrong. I don't know and the truth is, no one does.

 

[Laughing]

There are some fascinating AI projects around, but ChatGPT is just a very well made bit of fun. It parses requests and pulls in stuff from it's sources and presents a readable response. It's very clever, but it's not AI.

Chatgpt isn't just a bit of fun. It is used in lots of projects to read documents and try and extract meaning and context.

Opennlp were doing this before openai but didn't make it readily available

 

[The Ruthsayer]

I have no idea, that was others opinion. I know a lot about ai but nothing really about biology.

I like penrose, so I'll get his book. What I would say is he isn't a biologist. He is a mathematician and physicist.

That's not to say I think he is wrong. I don't know and the truth is, no one does.

Agree with that, but he is also a very sound philosopher. As you would expect, his argument does reflect his training. I’d be interested to see what you make of the book.

 

[Laughing]

Agree with that, but he is also a very sound philosopher. As you would expect, his argument does reflect his training. I’d be interested to see what you make of the book.

Just looking on kindle now as I munch on cheese on toast

 

[Laughing]

6.41 I love kindle

 

[The Ruthsayer]

Just looking on kindle now as I munch on cheese on toast

I’m a big fan of kindle, but this might be one where a paperback is better. Depends on how kindle shows the equations.

 

[Laughing]

I’m a big fan of kindle, but this might be one where a paperback is better. Depends on how kindle shows the equations.

I have a few physics books on kindle and it seems to manage OK.

 

[Piccadilly Day Tripper]

Agree, it's terrifying to think of the implications of AIs progress.
Saying that, I tried asking it this:

Give Middlesbrough's all time best 11 and explain the reason for each selection

The response proves that the technology isn't quite there yet...

​

"Selecting an all-time best XI for a football club can be a difficult task, as it is based on personal opinion and there have been many great players who have represented the club over the years. However, here is one possible all-time best XI for Middlesbrough Football Club:

1. Brad Jones (Goalkeeper) - Consistently solid performer during his time at the club, made a number of crucial saves to help the team achieve success.
2. Franck Queudrue (Left-back) - A solid defender who also contributed to the attack, his crosses and set-pieces were a key aspect of the team's play during his time at the club.
3. George Boateng (Midfield) - A tenacious midfielder who was known for his ability to break up play and start counter-attacks, he was a key player for the team during his time at the club.
4. Gareth Southgate (Center-back) - A leader on and off the field, he captained the team during their most successful period and was known for his ability to organize the defense.
5. Craig Hignett (Midfield) - A versatile player who could play in midfield or attack, he was known for his ability to score goals and create chances for his teammates.
6. Juninho Paulista (Midfield) - A skillful and creative midfielder who was instrumental in the team's success during his two spells at the club, he was a fan favorite and one of the most talented players to ever wear the Middlesbrough shirt.
7. Stewart Downing (Left wing) - A fast and technical player who was known for his ability to create chances and score goals, he was one of the team's most important players during his time at the club.
8. George Hardwick (Center-back) - A legendary player who captained the team during their most successful period in the 1940s, he was known for his leadership and defensive skills.
9. Brian Clough (Forward) - A prolific goal scorer who holds the record for most goals scored for the club, he was a key player during his time at the club and helped lead the team to promotion.
10. Uwe Fuchs (Forward) - A powerful and clinical finisher, he was a key player for the team during his time at the club and scored a number of important goals.
11. Mark Schwarzer (Goalkeeper) - A consistent and reliable goalkeeper who made a number of important saves during his time at the club, he was a key player in the team's success.

It's worth noting that this is one possible selection and there are many other players who could also make a strong case for inclusion in an all-time best XI."

Brad Jones???! Pull the plug out of it, it's knackered.