That’s not luck or accidental, it’s having a strong recruitment department, investing in it. That’s what we are trying. It also requires the club to accept that there will be transfer failures. Brentford took a decade really to grow and improve to where they are nowPeople keep talking talking about the Brighton/Brentford model but their secret is their record in the transfer is amazing.
We’re one point down on last season..Well that makes me feel so much better???
He very well may be aiming for top 2. Most managers in this league probably know that if the stars align, you can build momentum and you have the right “combination” of players (not necessarily the best players) you can challenge. Whether Gibson/Bausor/Scott agree we’ll never know as we hear little from them, and last time Gibson talked about aiming for automatic promotion he phrased it quite clumsily.We were told we were aiming for top 2 remember, maybe that was just bull$hit coming out of carrick or perhaps he’s not on the same page as Kieron Scott
Karanka had 3 seasons to get us up.. then it was the recruitment that let us down until Woodgate took over.Carrick must be given time, he’s a rookie manager and he’s going to make lots of mistakes but let’s not forget he got us within a smidgen of the premier league last season. Had Howson Fletcher and Forss not got injured at the tail end of the season we may well have gone up. Gibson sacked Karanka far too soon when if he’d kept him he would probably have taken us back up after we’d gone down from the prem. This is not the squad that will finish the season, we will make more signings and loans that will transform this team from the stuttering start we have had. Don’t forget we’d played one third of the season before Carrick arrived last year and still made the playoffs. Stay cool, this is a marathon not a sprint, have a beer and look forward to another cracking season - UTB
Agreed but you have to build for the future not go all in for the immediate with no long term strategy. Then you just hope it clicks quickerI certainly think if anyone ever says 'we aren't ready to go up' again I'll roll eyes them. You have to take your opportunity when it comes along.
Nope I’m not reading that without some paragraphs10 wins in 12 at one point under wilder, a poor end to the season, didn’t get our targets in we all know what happened the three things notated there have happened again, it’s scary. My hope is I believe last season we were at a completely different level under carrick, with wilder at one point despite your feelings regarding him he had us playing some very good stuff. Ultimately the differences are wilder openly did not shut down the Burnley speculation and felt like from the off he didn’t want to be here the complete opposite to carrick who put to bed the early palace rumours but wilder said himself we didn’t get the signings we needed we started the season on the back foot, if it wasn’t for Chuba coming into he’s own we would have been left with that lump muniz, and rely on Matthew hopscotch off the bench, January was a success but to me that’s more to do with the pull of carrick than anything. Warnock himself said he wanted archer on a pod and the club did not go out and try and get him and we lost out to Preston bloody Preston, last season watching the Coventry game at home you see the dabs of real top quality draw mixed with the same drab mcnair jones crooks etc these are simply not good enogh for a team viang for promotion. I thought this summer we’d be ruthless I knew we’d lose giles and archer but I thought we’d have that killer instinct and do everything to go all in to make this season the year, we haven’t we’ve lost our best players and have waited till the back end of the window to try and scrabble our way out of another hole, with the same old bog standard championship players crooks mcnair jones etc being regulars again, no professionalism you can’t lose your best players and expect to pick up gems two weeks into the season on the cheap and get the same results. Warnock started poorly got the chop wilder started poorly got the chop it could end up three on the bounce, i don’t like wilder but he openly said he didn’t have the targets or players we needed and the recruitment team fishing in Poundland expecting they’ll be good enough. I have zero faith in Scott and I think bausor should have gone years ago. Gibson has continuously made mistake after mistake for years, I’d never question gibsons intentions as such but he simply is not this brilliant chairman fans paint him out to be. He once was but he’s not now, the team that started these two games are a complete insult to the 22,000 people who have paid ridiculous amount of money for season cards our aim was supposed to be top 2 which feels like we’re being lied to and strung along as muppets. It may feel like an overreaction and “ bed wetting” but it’s the same familiar trend every season. The recruitment team are going to **** away a brilliant young gem of a manager and let another season slip through our fingers, massive two weeks for the club to prove us “ bedwetters” wrong
Maybe but I'm nearly 75 and I can't wait too long
I hope so but I’m not sure it does - it suggests to me that we’re not backing a manager who achieved brilliant things last season by starting the season with a squad that’s much worse than the season before and letting our best player leave.It suggests that Carrick is committing himself to the club and we need to give him time.
Usually we get 'it's a transition year' or a 're-build year' - long term project is a new one. It's all bollox just situation normal. I'm not frustrated, we are a decent Champo club, not a big city, modest & sensible funding, good local owner, decent facilities, hard core of 15k or so loyal fans. This is how it's always been apart from some amazing bursts at the top every now & then and then back down to reality. Just enjoy it, align your expectations that this is what the Boro is. If you want PL glory all the time then support Man City or for a more exciting project then go and follow Newcastle, you'll enjoy your football better.No, Gibson just won’t invest and the recruitment team have let us down. Stop glossing over the reality, it’s a “ long term” project every season.
I honestly dont think the manager matters. The club are going in the direction its going and whoever is the figurehead gets what he's given. Hopefully Carricks bought into that, the three previous managers didnt even though they knew what they where joining. It looks to me like another hopeful playoff pushI was hoping we would keep Chuba and Gibbo would splash the cash in a dash for promotion. It is clear now that is not going to happen. Instead the club is investing in promising young players and looking to build for the medium/long term under Carrick. That being the case everyone should calm down and stop being so negative. It suggests that Carrick is committing himself to the club and we need to give him time. I am sure that Carrick will get the team to gel before long and these two defeats will be forgotten about. I suspect we won't win promotion this season, but I am very optimistic about the future.
These are usually my sentiments, and they still are, the only snag being that one season in the PL out of 15 is actually not normal for us (or going longer than 7 seasons out of it).Usually we get 'it's a transition year' or a 're-build year' - long term project is a new one. It's all bollox just situation normal. I'm not frustrated, we are a decent Champo club, not a big city, modest & sensible funding, good local owner, decent facilities, hard core of 15k or so loyal fans. This is how it's always been apart from some amazing bursts at the top every now & then and then back down to reality. Just enjoy it, align your expectations that this is what the Boro is. If you want PL glory all the time then support Man City or for a more exciting project then go and follow Newcastle, you'll enjoy your football better.