Blame the science

James O'Brien predicted the Government tactics on Apr 13th

1) Pretend that idiots wishing harm on PM are representative of all govt. critics. (Ignore all examples of harm being wished on govt. critics.)

2) Orchestrate pliant MPs & client journalists in ‘quote tweet’ pile-ons against the most effective criticism.

3) Insist that the govt. has ‘followed the science’ without explaining what science.

4) If pushed on 3, argue that explaining the science will ‘embarrass our allies’.

5) Wibble about ‘national cycles’ when asked why the govt. failed to learn from stark foreign examples.

6) Repeat 5 when asked to explain unflattering comparisons with Germany, Ireland etc

7) Introduce pithy but vacuous slogans into public discourse so that blindly loyal forelock-tuggers at least have something to shout into the ether. See ‘population density’ & ‘herd immunity’.

8) Try to move the debate away from scrutiny of deeply flawed lockdown messaging towards one about when lockdown should end.

9) Blame govt. failures on doctors & nurses; WHO; Public Health England; civil service; China; the Boogie.

10) If all else fails, refuse all interviews.

We are currently at stage 8-9 and some on here haven't realised we're being played for fools. Now we get an Immigration Bill to **** on the nurses and carers that have saved lives and kept the NHS running. Still the Tory voters will be out to clap on Thursday to absolve their tainted souls.
 
Alvez_48 said:
The times keep claiming that excess deaths not counted as covid deaths are covid deaths by extension wether its covid or not because of the effect of lockdown. It boils my ****, no we had options, we had different approaches it's the media in this country that led the government. No scientists , no strong leaders, the media whipping up us plebs.
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I don't agree with you Alvez, I really don't. I get that some people advocated for no lcokdown and some other way forward. I cannot agree.
 
Alvez_48 said:
The times keep claiming that excess deaths not counted as covid deaths are covid deaths by extension wether its covid or not because of the effect of lockdown. It boils my ****, no we had options, we had different approaches it's the media in this country that led the government. No scientists , no strong leaders, the media whipping up us plebs.
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According to the ONS, by far the leading cause of death in April was Covid-19. Of these, Covid-19 was the 'underlying' (i.e. main) cause of death in 95% of cases (before you start the died 'from' or 'of' argument again).

The second leading cause of death was Dementia and Alzheimer's disease, which experienced almost twice the 5-year average for deaths from these conditions. People with dementia often reside in care homes, where we know that there has been a Covid-19 epidemic.

Do you honestly think that twice as many people with dementia just happened to die last month, or is it more likely that they are Covid-19 deaths which have been under-reported? That's a rhetorical question by the way.
 
It’s all very strange, the death rate is appalling the incompetence has been shocking and yet the sympathy Of the public seems to be with the prime minister. I just can’t understand it.
 
Billy Horner said:
According to the ONS, by far the leading cause of death in April was Covid-19. Of these, Covid-19 was the 'underlying' (i.e. main) cause of death in 95% of cases (before you start the died 'from' or 'of' argument again).

The second leading cause of death was Dementia and Alzheimer's disease, which experienced almost twice the 5-year average for deaths from these conditions. People with dementia often reside in care homes, where we know that there has been a Covid-19 epidemic.

Do you honestly think that twice as many people with dementia just happened to die last month, or is it more likely that they are Covid-19 deaths which have been under-reported? That's a rhetorical question by the way.
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I'm saying we don't know there are many many factors and to claim that we just blame a virus rather than decisions taken is simply wrong.
 
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