Blair and Starmer

Granville Bennett

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Just thinking how a couple of months into Blair’s premiership, Diana died, The Queen was initially silent and Blair led on it, contributing, in part, to an approval rating of over 90%. Completely unheard of.

Contrast that with what Starmer has faced in his first few weeks as prime minister.
 
Just thinking how a couple of months into Blair’s premiership, Diana died, The Queen was initially silent and Blair led on it, contributing, in part, to an approval rating of over 90%. Completely unheard of.

Contrast that with what Starmer has faced in his first few weeks as prime minister.

Think the mood when Blair came to power was much more approval for Blair rather than a dissatisfaction with the previous government as with the case with KS.

Blair "swept" to power, Starmer "stumbled" to it.
 
The voting system is accepted by all he won a massive majority from an 80 seat deficit, even the right wing media were shocked.

He will win next time as well.
Yeah I know he did, tories also just completely lost it too though. Labour didn't need to do anything spectacular.
Also people are already turning on him (wrongly) but I've seen alot of b***ks on social media, the tommy robbos of the world, they all voted reform, who knows what's gonna happen in 4 year.
 
I don’t think it mattered who was in charge there always likely to get a lot of flack for what went on over the last few yrs , so a change was always likely . Unless their do something noticeably good itl be back to conservatives again next time around .
 
Not really sure what point you are trying to make Granville. Different times different issues.

Not making a point. Just thinking aloud.

Major had got the national debt down from £19 billion to £1 billion and had done a lot of the groundwork for peace in Northern Ireland. Could argue he was the Maddren/Mowbray to Blair’s Rioch/Karanka.

Starmer has inherited a ***show.
 
Yeah I know he did, tories also just completely lost it too though. Labour didn't need to do anything spectacular.
Also people are already turning on him (wrongly) but I've seen alot of b***ks on social media, the tommy robbos of the world, they all voted reform, who knows what's gonna happen in 4 year.
I think you are right it is always a factor that unpopular governments get replaced but it was a spectacular victory however you look at it, nobody mentions when the left wing vote splits do they?
 
I'm not arguing against Starmer, and think he's by far the best qualified candidate, but you're missing the point - people voted for Blair, people voted against Sunak and his gang.
100%. Starmer had been in charge for 5+ years and I still see no reason to vote for him and/or agree with what he says. So far he is being followed because he's not the useless **** leading us over the cliff but the majority of people aren't following him in his direction, they've just stopped following the useless ***** and are stood still waiting for someone with a reason to follow them.
 
I'm not arguing against Starmer, and think he's by far the best qualified candidate, but you're missing the point - people voted for Blair, people voted against Sunak and his gang.
Of course we can all say whatever we choose about why people voted, but the only fact is how they voted. I didn’t feel the same euphoria when Starmer swept to power as I did when Blair did, but the achievement was very similar, if not greater for Starmer mathematically.

Had I been a Tory voter I would have been appalled that the BJ super majority could be tossed away so quickly, but equally I think the Tory divisions that caused this go back the the Thatcher years or even before, Europe, immigration, immigration policy etc etc . In my opinion they’re finished and the leadership election will be the death throes, BUT I think the political landscape will change and remap itself.
 
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