Bioethanol Fire

Norfolkred1

Norfolkred1

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Looking at getting a small one for the cold conservatory. Anyone got one and are they any good at giving out much heat.
 
I bought an old second hand cast iron gas stove that was broken, and removed the burner and fitted a bioethanol rectangular burner tray. It fits nicely and just rests on the original burner rails. I need to leave the door open to get enough air in to keep it alight, but it has a sliding door to regulate the flame. Can’t remember how much I paid but it was cheap, but looks good inside the cast stove. It gives enough heat to warm our 15’x15’ living room. You can buy a 12 pack of litre bottles off Amazon cheapest. One bottle might last 2 x 3 hour burns.
 
I looked at this about 5 years ago for our cold kitchen. I'm keen on open flame having previously lived with an open flame natural gas fire in the living room. However the more I looked the more I disliked and thankful I put it to bed as a workable idea
some things I didn't like

Disadvantages of Bioethanol Fires
  • Low heat output (2-3kW)
  • Fuel doesn't last too long.
  • Cannot be topped up when burning.
  • Expensive fuel cost.
  • Flammable liquid has to be stored.
  • Creates condensation on windows.
  • Potentially dangerous fumes.
  • Safety hazard

It doesn't even mention kids or daft pets in that list. Ventilation needed too. given the low power output and the fact NE conservatories in Dec-Mar are the 2nd coldest indoor places known to European man , I hate to sway you , but I really would look for an alternative.
 
Boro_Interlinked said:
I looked at this about 5 years ago for our cold kitchen. I'm keen on open flame having previously lived with an open flame natural gas fire in the living room. However the more I looked the more I disliked and thankful I put it to bed as a workable idea
some things I didn't like

Disadvantages of Bioethanol Fires
  • Low heat output (2-3kW)
  • Fuel doesn't last too long.
  • Cannot be topped up when burning.
  • Expensive fuel cost.
  • Flammable liquid has to be stored.
  • Creates condensation on windows.
  • Potentially dangerous fumes.
  • Safety hazard

It doesn't even mention kids or daft pets in that list. Ventilation needed too. given the low power output and the fact NE conservatories in Dec-Mar are the 2nd coldest indoor places known to European man , I hate to sway you , but I really would look for an alternative.
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No, thanks for the info. It's only to take the chill out of the room, no kids, no pets but with gas bottle replacements so high in price we were looking for something short term. Bring back the paraffin heather of old.
 
Norfolkred1 said:
No, thanks for the info. It's only to take the chill out of the room, no kids, no pets but with gas bottle replacements so high in price we were looking for something short term. Bring back the paraffin heather of old.
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No children but you are child like 🤷
 
Norfolkred1 said:
No, thanks for the info. It's only to take the chill out of the room, no kids, no pets but with gas bottle replacements so high in price we were looking for something short term. Bring back the paraffin heather of old.
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I know, just 1 month ago I thought should I get a portable gas fire with the 13kg bottles for the kitchen . Although they can go to 4.2Kw I would just use it on the 1.4Kw 1 bar setting. Was interesting learning and doing the calcs. Apart from the 70 quid capital buy in on the fire I found it matched penny for penny on fuel costs with what I already do now which is use an electric convector on 750w. So although electric is still 4 x natural gas prices , its even stevens with buying calor gas at 13-15kg levels. So I thought , no , no point in the chew.
You might not like this but it will be cheaper for you to do supplimentary insulation like bubble wrap on glass or plain see through pvc sheets, providing you already have a roof insulation solution
 
Boro_Interlinked said:
I know, just 1 month ago I thought should I get a portable gas fire with the 13kg bottles for the kitchen . Although they can go to 4.2Kw I would just use it on the 1.4Kw 1 bar setting. Was interesting learning and doing the calcs. Apart from the 70 quid capital buy in on the fire I found it matched penny for penny on fuel costs with what I already do now which is use an electric convector on 750w. So although electric is still 4 x natural gas prices , its even stevens with buying calor gas at 13-15kg levels. So I thought , no , no point in the chew.
You might not like this but it will be cheaper for you to do supplimentary insulation like bubble wrap on glass or plain see through pvc sheets, providing you already have a roof insulation solution
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We do have a calor gas fire sat in the garage, so it's probably time to dust it off and take out a bank loan......Do you sell cars for a living, great sales pitch...
 
I bought one for the missus . Just a little thing that sits in the table (basically pebbles surrounded by glass). It gives off more than enough for the conservatory and didn’t seem to need any additional ventilation
 
Bioethanol fires produce minimal emissions that are generally safe for indoor air quality when used in a well-ventilated area:

many searches on G will produce statements like that. Its always mentioned as a caveat. Obv no statement about the fuel is gonna start with that . , but it's there everytime.
 
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